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To: annalex

Helps what? Create righteousness?

And, again, you are not reading my posts. The will to do whatever we might do toward obedience is managed there by God Himself. That is what the Scriptures tell us. We are moved, managed, by God. Our wills are in bondage to whatever He desires.

Your organization is at odds with this claim, since it is persuaded that Semi-Pelagiansim is true. That is heresy, but it hasn’t stopped them for 1500 years.

In reality, there is no free will.

Got to run for the evening.


352 posted on 07/08/2009 5:41:10 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88
The will to do whatever we might do toward obedience is managed there by God Himself. That is what the Scriptures tell us.

If the will to do good works is "managed by God Himself" then why does the scripture spend to much effort teaching us how to become righteous? Trust me, I read your posts, and I do not see an unambiguous answer. You pointed out, correctly, that sometime the Scripture should not be read literally, but you did not link it to the question posed. Then, a few times you said that the ethical teaching is there to convict us of our depravity, but you did not agree that that is the only purpose the ethical teaching is there. Then you said that the elect "cling to God" and are "encouraged" to do righteous things. Now you clarify that the clinging and the encouraging is managed by God. This does not add to a logical answer for me. Please explain.

If we have no real choice in how we behave, why does the scripture teach us how to behave?

I will respond to your questions and assertions on what the scripture really teaches and how the Church is wrong after I receive an answer I can understand, on this question.

353 posted on 07/09/2009 10:03:41 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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