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To: restornu

Yeah, I was afraid you might go all kinds of post modern on me.

Too bad there are no real Mormons left who would argue their points. Thirty years ago there might have been some perhaps heated discussion, prior to the retreat from the banning of black elders. When the church crumbles in the face of public opinion it must be really embarrassing. What does Jesus say about that? I bet He didn’t suggest caving even in the Joseph Smith interpretation.

Where did the men go in the Mormon Church? Brigham Young would never allow his church to bend the knee without bloodshed. He had some grit and guts and would get in anyones face to challenge them. Joseph Smith would argue that HIS bible was the real bible, and that what we have is the apostate remains. Heck, he died with a gun in his hand. Got to give the guy credit for that, (even if perhaps that alone.) Did all the men go to those LDS offshoots?

But there is no one that stands for anything in the LDS anymore. I think it is because the Mormon church really knows there is no toe, much less a foot to stand on factually, and always has to fall back to the “my feelings tell me” defense. And that must be so satisfying to run from every hill and front. I really wish more Mormons would fight. Instead, we must expect the Mormons to crumble instead of continuing to fight beside the Christians for moral issues, when the fight gets really tough. How long before they abandon the barricades in California? If and when the church starts to get taxed?

The modern Mormon church was feminized and probably will never recover. A worthy foe falls to post modernism. Alas!


57 posted on 06/16/2009 8:55:26 PM PDT by Ottofire (Philippians 1:21: For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain.)
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To: Ottofire

Too bad there are no real Mormons left who would argue their points. Thirty years ago there might have been some perhaps heated discussion...

Where did the men go in the Mormon Church? Brigham Young would never allow his church to bend the knee without bloodshed. He had some grit and guts and would get in anyones face to challenge them. Joseph Smith would argue that HIS bible was the real bible....

Neither you nor I lived in that era but the timbre was much different in how people express them self.

When I read a whole sermon of Brigham Young I can just imagine why he talk as he did to keep folks awake in those hot summer days.

How could someone go to sleep after the many intriguing opening statements he would make and sprinkle all through his talk.

By the end of his talk one clearly understood what he was teaching.

People on the earth as a whole have gone through many changes down through the ages we are in the hands of the Potter’s clay.

So my observation in the Church is that more of the LDS were listening to the Lord’s council than it seems the mainstream who to me seemed to be stuck in how they wonder through life..

Refusing to budge might one of the reason for that could have to do with the tradition of men is limited.

You have enough understanding of the scriptures to live on earth to be good citizens but are unable to unlock the passages which prepares one for eternal life!

I have witness a few in the mainstream who have been diligence in their studies and prayers and the Lord’s countenance rest upon them!

Those who are firm and strong in the Lord yet humble will do better in this day and age for they will be able to hear and receive the promptings from the Holy Ghost as they walk through this maze of uncertainly that is quickly unfolding before our eyes.

We live in a time of uncertainly in the earth unable to know what to do with ones savings or investments since the rule of law seem to be suspended!

1. Matt. 6: 19-20
19 ¶ Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:

20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

2. 3 Ne. 13: 19-20
19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and thieves break through and steal;

20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal.

3. James 5: 3
3 Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days.

Ten virgins

Do you think the oil in ones lamp that contains these this items will enable one to be readly to meet the Lord?

1. 1 Tim. 6: 4
4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,

Would not striving to obtaining this type of Oil would help to prepare one to meet the Lord?

Galatians 5

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

IMHO


58 posted on 06/16/2009 10:47:23 PM PDT by restornu (Tolerance is a two way street!)
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