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To: SoConPubbie

You have some definitional problems. You seem to think all Christians go to Heaven.


127 posted on 05/27/2009 2:47:02 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: Petronski
You have some definitional problems. You seem to think all Christians go to Heaven.

No sir, no such problem here.

By definition, to be a Christian means to be Christ-Like.

You cannot truly be a Christian or name the name of Christ and be sinning, because you are no long "Christ-Like".

Therefore, if you are up-to-date with God, living in all the light he has given you, living a "Christ-Like" life, he has promised to take you to heaven.

By substitution, all Christians go to heaven.

Those who are almost, or slightly, or mostly Christian will not make Heaven as he is a Holy God and will not countenance sin in Heaven.
156 posted on 05/27/2009 7:37:11 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Petronski
Catholics are Christians by definition. Your store-front cult's opinion on the matter is irrelevant.

Petronski, I really didn't have time earlier to really provide the necessary proof to back my claim that you are incorrect in assuming this. So here it is:

John Chapter 3:

14  And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

15  That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

16  For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17  For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18  He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.



Acts 16:23-31

23  And when they had laid many stripes upon them, they cast them into prison, charging the jailor to keep them safely:

24  Who, having received such a charge, thrust them into the inner prison, and made their feet fast in the stocks.

25  And at midnight Paul and Silas prayed, and sang praises unto God: and the prisoners heard them.

26  And suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison were shaken: and immediately all the doors were opened, and every one's bands were loosed.

27  And the keeper of the prison awaking out of his sleep, and seeing the prison doors open, he drew out his sword, and would have killed himself, supposing that the prisoners had been fled.

28  But Paul cried with a loud voice, saying, Do thyself no harm: for we are all here.

29  Then he called for a light, and sprang in, and came trembling, and fell down before Paul and Silas,

30  And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?

31  And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.



1 John 5:1-5

1  Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

2  By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

3  For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

4  For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

5  Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?



Acts 13:37-41

37  But he, whom God raised again, saw no corruption.

38  Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:

39  And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.

40  Beware therefore, lest that come upon you, which is spoken of in the prophets;

41  Behold, ye despisers, and wonder, and perish: for I work a work in your days, a work which ye shall in no wise believe, though a man declare it unto you.



Membership in a Church setup and administered by earthly fallible men, while good, will give you entry into heaven.

As the scriptures point out, salvation is gained by Repentence and faith or believing the Gospel.

Without salvation, as the scriptures I have posted prove, there is no entry into heaven.

158 posted on 05/27/2009 8:00:26 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Petronski
You have some definitional problems. You seem to think all Christians go to Heaven.

You may have a point...I'm sure not all Catholic Christians will go to heaven...Maybe none of them...You won't know til and if you get there...

All Baptist Christians however, are guaranteed not only a place in heaven, but a mansion to live in as well...

165 posted on 05/28/2009 5:13:51 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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