Posted on 05/26/2009 7:45:40 AM PDT by GonzoII
308. What is your attitude towards John Wesley?
Wesley was a good and sincere man, but he was mistaken in his notion of Christianity. It was evil that he should have created a further sect. Yet because he and his followers were sincere God blessed their goodwill in many things, drawing good from their work in spite of the undoubted evil of preaching erroneous doctrines as if they were indeed the true doctrines of Christ. Meantime God wills for Wesleyans the greater good still of a return to the Catholic Church.
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Rev. Dr. Leslie Rumble, M.S.C.
"I was brought up as a Protestant, probably with more inherited prejudices than most non-Catholics of these days. My parents were Anglican and taught me the Angelican faith. My 'broad-minded' protestant teachers taught me to dislike the Catholic Church intensely. I later tried Protestantism in various other forms, and it is some thirty years since, in God's providence, I became a Catholic. As for the 'open, free, sincere worship' of a Protestant Church, I tasted it, but for me it proved in the end to be not only open, but empty; it was altogether too free from God's prescriptions."
Eventually, Leslie became a priest of the Missionaries of the Sacred Heart.
In 1928, Fr. Rumble began a one-hour 'Question Box' program on 2SM Sydney, N.S.W. radio on Sunday evenings that was heard all over Australia and New Zealand. For five years he answered questions on every subject imaginable that had been written to him from all over that part of the globe. His first show began with a classic introduction:
"Good evening, listeners all. For some time I have been promising to give a session dealing with questions of religion and morality, in which the listeners themselves should decide what is of interest to them. Such a session will commence next Sunday evening, and I invite you to send in any questions you wish on these subjects . . . So now I invite you, non-Catholics above all, to send in any questions you wish on religion, or morality, or the Catholic Church, and I shall explain exactly the Catholic position, and give the reasons for it. In fact I almost demand those questions. Many hard things have been said, and are still being said, about the Catholic Church, though no criminal, has been so abused, that she has a right to be heard. I do not ask that you give your name and address. A nom de plume will do. Call yourself Voltaire, Confucius, X.Y.Z., what you like, so long as you give indication enough to recognize your answer."
"By the summer of 1937, the first edition of Radio Replies was already in print in Australia, financed by Rt. Rev. Monsignor James Meany, P.P. - the director of Station 2SM of whom I am greatly indebted."
"I have often been mistaken, as most men at times. And it is precisely to make sure that I will not be mistaken in the supremely important matter of religion that I cling to a Church which cannot be mistaken, but must be right where I might be wrong. God knew that so many sincere men would make mistakes that He deliberately established an infallible Church to preserve them from error where it was most important that they should not go wrong."
Rev. Charles Mortimer Carty
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I broadcast my radio program, the Catholic Radio Hour, from St. Paul, Minnesota.
I was also carrying on as a Catholic Campaigner for Christ, the Apostolate to the man in the street through the medium of my trailer and loud-speaking system. In the distribution of pamphlets and books on the Catholic Faith, Radio Replies proved the most talked of book carried in my trailer display of Catholic literature. As many of us street preachers have learned, it is not so much what you say over the microphone in answer to questions from open air listeners, but what you get into their hands to read. The questions Fr. Rumble had to answer on the other side of the planet are same the questions I had to answer before friendly and hostile audiences throughout my summer campaign."
I realized that this priest in Australia was doing exactly the same work I was doing here in St. Paul. Because of the success of his book, plus the delay in getting copies from Sydney and the prohibitive cost of the book on this side of the universe, I got in contact with him to publish a cheap American edition.
It doesn't take long for the imagination to start thinking about how much we could actually do. We began the Radio Replies Press Society Publishing Company, finished the American edition of what was to be the first volume of Radio Replies, recieved the necessary imprimatur, and Msgr. Fulton J. Sheen agreed to write a preface. About a year after the publication of the first edition in Australia, we had the American edition out and in people's hands.
The book turned into a phenomena. Letters began pouring into my office from every corner of the United States; Protestant Publishing Houses are requesting copies for distribution to Protestant Seminaries; a few Catholic Seminaries have adopted it as an official textbook - and I had still never met Dr. Rumble in person.
To keep a long story short, we finally got a chance to meet, published volumes two and three of Radio Replies, printed a set of ten booklets on subjects people most often asked about, and a few other pamphlets on subjects of interest to us.
Fr. Carty died on May 22, 1964 in Connecticut.
"Firstly, since God is the Author of all truth, nothing that is definitely true can every really contradict anything else that is definitely true. Secondly, the Catholic Church is definitely true. It therefore follows that no objection or difficulty, whether drawn from history, Scripture, science, or philosophy, can provide a valid argument against the truth of the Catholic religion."
Biographies compiled from the introductions to Radio Replies, volumes 1, 2 and 3.
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Let me be the first to say ...
What a pant load ..
Plenty of Protestants believe the Catholic church to be evil, so I suppose the former good Reverend is to be forgiven for engaging in tit for tat.
I’ll pray for him.
>>>Wesley was a good and sincere man, but he was mistaken in his notion of Christianity. It was evil that he should have created a further sect. Yet because he and his followers were sincere God blessed their goodwill in many things, drawing good from their work in spite of the undoubted evil of preaching erroneous doctrines as if they were indeed the true doctrines of Christ. Meantime God wills for Wesleyans the greater good still of a return to the Catholic Church.<<<
The only signigicant false doctrine that Wesley taught was infant baptism.
I dare say that this author cannot point to anything Wesley preached that runs counter to the Gospel of Jesus Christ and the Bible.
I’ve read through most of Wesley’s works, his notes on the New Testament and Old Testament and have as yet to find anything that is incorrect from a theological point of view with regards to the Bible.
Furthermore, it was the works of John Wesley, primarily his sermon on the “Righteouse of Faith” that God used to save my soul from sin and cause me to be Born Again.
So from a personal perspective, I know the author does not know what he is talking about when he says these kind of things about Wesley.
And what's weird is that so many people believe what this bone-head says just because he says it...
From the post:
Wesley was a good and sincere man, but he was mistaken in his notion of Christianity. It was evil that he should have created a further sect.
Millions upon millions of people have turned to Jesus and accepted Jesus as their Savior thru the preaching and teaching of John Wesley...Anyone who claims John Wesley taught a phony Christianity or started an evil sect has to be a child of Satan...
Yet because he and his followers were sincere God blessed their goodwill in many things, drawing good from their work in spite of the undoubted evil of preaching erroneous doctrines as if they were indeed the true doctrines of Christ.
And this is one ignorant statement...God blessed the work of an evil religion because they were sincere??? What ignorance...
The author apparently knows of God...But he doesn't know God...
“The world is my parish!” - John Wesley
That’s part of what both the Church of England and the Catholic Church hated - and still hate - about the Wesleyan doctrines. After all, where did the word, “parochial” come from?
“Yet because he and his followers were sincere God blessed their goodwill in many things, drawing good from their work in spite of the undoubted evil of preaching erroneous doctrines as if they were indeed the true doctrines of Christ.”
I just this morning read the part of CS Lewis’ “The Great Divorce” that dealt with the White Ghost (a soul visiting heaven from hell), and he made this very argument: if I have a sincerely held position, God will bless it no matter whether it contradicts Scripture. What a complete tragedy that a leader in the Catholic Church makes the very same argument.
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As a Methodist pastor, xzins, does this PR from Rome create in you a yearning to drown in the Tibur?
I’m not real sure how this basic article is significantly different than Chick Publications. It calls my Methodism: “evil.”
I’ll not ping on it, though. Better to let them get it out of their system.
Just happened upon this in my annual reading of Pilgrims Progress.
Mark 16:16 - Jesus says to the crowd, "He who believes and is baptized will be saved." But in reference to the same people, Jesus immediately follows with "He who does not believe will be condemned." This demonstrates that one can be baptized and still not be a believer. This disproves the Protestant argument that one must be a believer to be baptized. There is nothing in the Bible about a "believer's baptism."
What in the world are you trying to say here...The verse is crystal clear...If you believe and are baptized, you will be saved...
If you don't believe but are baptized, you are condemned...
The obvious key is believing...And you will notice that it doesn't say that if you believe but are not baptized, you will be condemned...
Sure, anyone can get baptized...They'll just be wet when they go to hell because they didn't believe...
And all the supposed correct greek translations you put in there...After all this time, why hasn't your church constructed a bible using those 'correct' greek translations instead of coming up with greek words to correct what's already written, even by your own church???
And the answer to that is because if your church produced a bible with the 'correct' translations and greek words you claim belong there, that bible wouldn't come close to matching any greek texts found anywhere on the face of the earth...
welcome newbie - have we seen you before?
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