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To: Quix
From where I sit—the evidence mounts that the Vatican is agreeing with the globalist oligarchy that the ET’s are wonderful, beneficial, pseudo-saviors of mankind in some sense.

If it were so, it would be wicked and frightening.

About the gummint appropriating stuff or directing its allocation: I THINK that some degree of it is assumed in the notion of "eminent domain." And, of course, we now see how those who think themselves our betters can abuse eminent domain to take property from Naboth to give it to a friend of Ahab's. But, that doesn't mean eminent domain is bad, it means people are.

IF there were truly a famine and if I had a store of food, I can see in principle that the government could exercise domain over it, while giving me what it was pleased to call "just compensation." And I say that fully aware that, especially as events are running right now, the government is all too likely to abuse that power.

As to globalism, that's precisely the kind of thing that gives the scholarly me a headache. I would want - hey, I know, I want a graduate student or two of my very own. The heck with the 13th amendment. Can one BUY a graduate student?

Anyway, on the one hand, it is good for nations to cooperate in good causes. On the other hand, nations are generally a bunch of jerks. I think the job of the Church is, among other things, to encourage everyone to play nice, while also advocating subsidiarity - in other words, Belgium should keep its mitts out of the affairs of Virginia.

But we know there will be abuses. Once you admit the need for government, you've admitted that we are in a pickle.

80 posted on 05/25/2009 4:48:12 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Mad Dawg

More excellent points.

I do hope . . . perhaps when I’ve completed my commentary on this encyclical . . . that you’ll suggest some . . . meaningful answer to the question . . .

AT WHAT POINT, does an earnest RC Christian

go UT-OH about the Vatican’s seeming dance with, affirmation of globalism????


82 posted on 05/25/2009 5:12:44 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Mad Dawg
[Quix commentary continued--FINAL INSTALLMENT]:

A Social Sense
70. We would also say a word to those who travel to newly industrialized nations for business purposes: industrialists, merchants, managers and representatives of large business concerns. It often happens that in their own land they do not lack a social sense. Why is it, then, that they give in to baser motives of self-interest when they set out to do business in the developing countries? Their more favored position should rather spur them on to be initiators of social progress and human betterment in these lands.

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Certainly that’s a plausible question. And, where Christians performed poorly in such a context, where were their Brothers holding them to a higher standard?

However, again, the globalist oligarchy cares little for inequities except as they can play on them to gain greater !!!!CONTROL!!!! and tyranny over more regions, spheres, and peoples.

[Qx extra paragraphing here]

Their organizational experience should help them to figure out ways to make intelligent use of the labor of the indigenous population, to develop skilled workers, to train engineers and other management men, to foster these people's initiative and prepare them for offices of ever greater responsibility. In this way they will prepare these people to take over the burden of management in the near future.

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Actually, a lot of that has been done overseas. Some of it became more and more true because the cost of keeping Western management folks in place overseas in the manner to which they’d become accustomed . . . became quite expensive. And, a lot has been done toward improving the working conditions/ standards of say Nike’s shoe factories overseas.

Nevertheless, on the whole, the globalist oligarchy has steadily deepened it’s entrenchment over the whole of the globe . . . as well as their closer and more restrictive !!!!CONTROL!!!! over more helpless-to-differ souls. Sometimes, the oligarchy uses even things they care little about—such as working conditions—in order to deepen their tyrannical control. They wouldn’t hesitate to reverse such progress in a flash, should it so suit some other oligarchy goal in the future.

In the meantime, justice must prevail in dealings between superiors and their subordinates. Legitimate contracts should govern these employment relations, spelling out the duties involved. And no one, whatever his status may be, should be unjustly subjected to the arbitrary whim of another.

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PRAISE GOD for this wonderful assertion. It would last about as long as a fog on a Phoenix summer day at noon . . . in the fiery furnace of globalism’s core goals and values. Yet, it’s nice to see such a good Biblical assertion stated, at least.

Development Missions
71. We certainly rejoice over the fact that an ever increasing number of experts are being sent on development missions by private groups, bilateral associations and international organizations. These specialists must not "act as overlords, but as helpers and fellow workers.'' (59) The people of a country soon discover whether their new helpers are motivated by good will or not, whether they want to enhance human dignity or merely try out their special techniques. The expert's message will surely be rejected by these people if it is not inspired by brotherly love.

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Thankfully, indigenous people have become more discerning about the motives of foreigners. And they certainly don’t respect nor work wholeheartedly in behalf of overlords who operate out of clearly less than admirable motives.

However, often, they have little choice in terms of whether they cooperate at all for some significantly greater benefit in life than they have been enjoying—or refuse to cooperate and continue to endure grinding poverty, disease and the like. The oligarchy has become masterful at making ‘one-down’ or ‘far down’ the pecking order folks—making them ‘offers they can’t refuse.’

The Role of Experts
72. Technical expertise is necessary, but it must be accompanied by concrete signs of genuine love. Untainted by overbearing nationalistic pride or any trace of racial discrimination, experts should learn how to work in collaboration with everyone. They must realize that their expert knowledge does not give them superiority in every sphere of life. The culture which shaped their living habits does contain certain universal human elements; but it cannot be regarded as the only culture, nor can it regard other cultures with haughty disdain. If it is introduced into foreign lands, it must undergo adaptation.

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I’m glad to see this straight-forward assertion. Nevertheless, the fact remains that the oligarchy doesn’t really care a flip about other cultures. They are only intent on forcing their constructions on reality on the whole of the world, totally. They may extend a milk-sop to other cultural features in order to gain a bigger foot-hold of influence or !!!!CONTROL!!!! However, their heart is not in it. Their hearts have already been consumed by their very Dark Lord.

Thus those who undertake such work must realize they are guests in a foreign land; they must see to it that they studiously observe its historical traditions, its rich culture, and its peculiar genius. A rapprochement between cultures will thus take place, bringing benefits to both sides.

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Another wonderful statement. And, with many Good Christian businessmen and international aid and mission agencies, that HAS been overwhelmingly the case—particularly in the last 3-5 decades or so.

However, again, the oligarchy doesn’t give a flip about such priorities except as they can be put to use deepening their death grip on more peoples and regions and sphere’s of resources etc.

Service to the World
73. Sincere dialogue between cultures, as between individuals, paves the way for ties of brotherhood. Plans proposed for man's betterment will unite all nations in the joint effort to be undertaken, if every citizen—be he a government leader, a public official, or a simple workman—is motivated by brotherly love and is truly anxious to build one universal human civilization that spans the globe. Then we shall see the start of a dialogue on man rather than on the products of the soil or of technology.

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Hmmmm . . . “. . . to build one universal human civilization that spans the globe.” Again, that’s straight out of the globalist playbook and propaganda machine. And it will be far from what it’s cracked up to be.

This dialogue will be fruitful if it shows the participants how to make economic progress and how to achieve spiritual growth as well; if the technicians take the role of teachers and educators; if the training provided is characterized by a concern for spiritual and moral values, so that it ensures human betterment as well as economic growth. Then the bonds of solidarity will endure, even when the aid programs are past and gone. It is not plain to all that closer ties of this sort will contribute immeasurably to the preservation of world peace?

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However, as even the white-washed version of their goals in the GEORGIA GUIDESTONES ref’d above shows—the spiritual and moral values sought and which WILL BE FORCED on the globe—is a homogenized pabulum of a humanistic religion that will then morph into clear and plain horrific satan worship. For the Vatican to give any aid or comfort toward such a goal is suicidal.

An Appeal to Youth
74. We are fully aware of the fact that many young people have already responded wholeheartedly to the invitation of Our predecessor Pius XII, summoning the laity to take part in missionary work. (60) We also know that other young people have offered their services to public and private organizations that seek to aid developing nations. We are delighted to learn that in some nations their requirement of military duty can be fulfilled, in part at least, by social service or, simply, service. We commend such undertakings and the men of good will who take part in them. Would that all those who profess to be followers of Christ might heed His plea: "I was hungry and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger and you took me in; naked and you covered me; sick and you visited me; I was in prison and you came to me." (61)

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I certainly applaud such efforts on the part of youth, as well. Servant-hearted work in behalf of the poor and unfortunate—particularly as unto God--brings spiritual growth benefits regardless of other factors.

However, OThuga’s version of such will turn out ultimately to be no more saintly than Hitler’s youth brigades.

No one is permitted to disregard the plight of his brothers living in dire poverty, enmeshed in ignorance and tormented by insecurity. The Christian, moved by this sad state of affairs, should echo the words of Christ: "I have compassion on the crowd." (62)

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INDEED. Christians must respond with compassionate actions as well as prayerful feelings of compassion. Yet, who’s name is anything being done in? All too soon, the only name authorized will be that of the Dark Lord.

Prayer and Action
75. Let everyone implore God the Father Almighty that the human race, which is certainly aware of these evils, will bend every effort of mind and spirit to their eradication. To this prayer should be added the resolute commitment of every individual. Each should do as much as he can, as best he can, to counteract the slow pace of progress in some nations. And it is to be hoped that individuals, social organizations and nations will join hands in brotherly fashion—the strong aiding the weak—all contributing their knowledge, their enthusiasm and their love to the task, without thinking of their own convenience.

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Voluntarily—AMEN! AMEN! Coerced as a globalist oligarchic demand, under tyrannical control . . . that would be something else. Paying the piper for that could be more than expensive.

It is the person who is motivated by genuine love, more than anyone else, who pits his intelligence against the problems of poverty, trying to uncover the causes and looking for effective ways of combatting and overcoming them. As a promoter of peace, "he goes on his way, holding aloft the torch of joy and shedding light and grace on the hearts of men all over the world; he helps them to cross the barriers of geographical frontiers, to acknowledge every man as a friend and brother." (63)

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AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

Development, the New Name for Peace
76. Extreme disparity between nations in economic, social and educational levels provokes jealousy and discord, often putting peace in jeopardy. As We told the Council Fathers on Our return from the United Nations: "We have to devote our attention to the situation of those nations still striving to advance. What We mean, to put it in clearer words, is that our charity toward the poor, of whom there are countless numbers in the world, has to become more solicitous, more effective, more generous." (64)

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ADMIRABLE, AGAIN. However, before any Christian group goes very far down that road internationally, the oligarchy is right at hand insisting on compliance with one or more of their strictures, !!!!CONTROL!!!! features, influence etc. until they have at least swallowed up what they can get away with of the authority over such projects.

When we fight poverty and oppose the unfair conditions of the present, we are not just promoting human well-being; we are also furthering man's spiritual and moral development, and hence we are benefiting the whole human race. For peace is not simply the absence of warfare, based on a precarious balance of power; it is fashioned by efforts directed day after day toward the establishment of the ordered universe willed by God, with a more perfect form of justice among men. (65)

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LOFTY WORDS. Between there and where the rubber meets the road . . . is a host of intractable challenges . . . all the more so with the oligarchy breathing down everyone’s necks.

77. Nations are the architects of their own development, and they must bear the burden of this work; but they cannot accomplish it if they live in isolation from others. Regional mutual aid agreements among the poorer nations, broader based programs of support for these nations, major alliances between nations to coordinate these activities—these are the road signs that point the way to national development and world peace.

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Sounding rather like a globalist script, again.

Toward an Effective World Authority
78. Such international collaboration among the nations of the world certainly calls for institutions that will promote, coordinate and direct it, until a new juridical order is firmly established and fully ratified. We give willing and wholehearted support to those public organizations that have already joined in promoting the development of nations, and We ardently hope that they will enjoy ever growing authority. As We told the United Nations General Assembly in New York: "Your vocation is to bring not just some peoples but all peoples together as brothers. . . Who can fail to see the need and importance of thus gradually coming to the establishment of a world authority capable of taking effective action on the juridical and political planes?" (66)

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AHHHHH . . . the quote. THIS ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, dogs and cats—IS PURE GLOBALISM. I cannot imagine that the Pope wrote such a statement ignorant of that fact. If he was ignorant, then he and the Vatican information resources are pathetic in terms of awareness. If he knew and was consciously complicit—then a lot of the rest of what he’s said in this encyclical is a farce. And how could he know and NOT be consciously complicit? Sorry, but this paragraph is well over the line, to me. He has deliberately signed-on to the plan, design, & methods of hell.

And, imho, he has no excuse. Scripture is quite clear that the global government brought about in the era in which Israel becomes a nation again in the Holy Land WILL BE A SATANIC GLOBAL GOVERNMENT. This is very sad to see in the context of this whole encyclical. The RC who claimed I was making this up must be willfully blind or utterly clueless. This is a dreadful declaration for any Pontiff of our era to make.

Hope for the Future
79. Some would regard these hopes as vain flights of fancy. It may be that these people are not realistic enough, and that they have not noticed that the world is moving rapidly in a certain direction. Men are growing more anxious to establish closer ties of brotherhood; despite their ignorance, their mistakes, their offenses, and even their lapses into barbarism and their wanderings from the path of salvation, they are slowly making their way to the Creator, even without adverting to it.

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“. . . from the path of salvation . . . “ “. . . making their way to the Creator . . . “

EXCUSE ME? Globalism has nothing to do with Christian Salvation NOR a path to The Creator—quite the opposite. Was this Pope that blind? I think not. This is a perversion of Biblical truth. This is a hideous white-washing of dastardly hellish forces in our era in the geopolitical arena.

NO amount of globalist homogenized mushing the world together into a tighter, more controlled tidy little ball . . . absent more than 5 billion murdered citizens . . . NO amount of globalist propaganda, white-wash and lies will result in MORE of God’s Salvation through Christ and certainly NOT closer travel to God on the path to the Creator. What nonsense! Globalism is abjectly and fiercely about the opposite on both counts.

This struggle toward a more human way of life certainly calls for hard work and imposes difficult sacrifices. But even adversity, when endured for the sake of one's brothers and out of love for them, can contribute greatly to human progress. The Christian knows full well that when he unites himself with the expiatory sacrifice of the Divine Savior, he helps greatly to build up the body of Christ, (67) to assemble the People of God into the fullness of Christ.

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SOUNDS good. Yet, in the face of those assertions just above, it doesn’t ring very true or authentic.

A Final Appeal
80. We must travel this road together, united in minds and hearts. Hence We feel it necessary to remind everyone of the seriousness of this issue in all its dimensions, and to impress upon them the need for action. The moment for action has reached a critical juncture. Can countless innocent children be saved? Can countless destitute families obtain more human living conditions? Can world peace and human civilization be preserved intact? Every individual and every nation must face up to this issue, for it is their problem.

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Certainly it is a problem having an effect on everyone. The globalists have a solution. Exterminate all down to 200 million. Problem solved. WHEN they are sufficiently in control, of course. Sad that this Pontiff sounds like he’s cheering them on—at whatever the sanitized distance.

To Catholics
81. We appeal, first of all, to Our sons. In the developing nations and in other countries lay people must consider it their task to improve the temporal order. While the hierarchy has the role of teaching and authoritatively interpreting the moral laws and precepts that apply in this matter, the laity have the duty of using their own initiative and taking action in this area—without waiting passively for directives and precepts from others. They must try to infuse a Christian spirit into people's mental outlook and daily behavior, into the laws and structures of the civil community. (68) Changes must be made; present conditions must be improved. And the transformations must be permeated with the spirit of the Gospel.

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SOUNDS GREAT. However, given his other assertions, he should count on the oligarchy to neuter any efforts whatsoever to infuse anything of the authentic Gospel of Christ into any of the oligarchy’s goals, systems and structures.

We especially urge Catholic men living in developed nations to offer their skills and earnest assistance to public and private organizations, both civil and religious, working to solve the problems of developing nations. They will surely want to be in the first ranks of those who spare no effort to have just and fair laws, based on moral precepts, established among all nations.

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There is but one moral law of Globalism. Their way or death. And, ultimately, it will be WORSHIP the Dark Lord, or death.

To Other Christians and Believers
82. All Our Christian brothers, We are sure will want to consolidate and expand their collaborative efforts to reduce man's immoderate self-love and haughty pride, to eliminate quarrels and rivalries, and to repress demagoguery and injustice—so that a more human way of living is opened to all, with each man helping others out of brotherly love.

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Regardless of the propaganda and white-wash, it is the purpose and goal of the oligarchy to carnalize any notion of brotherly love that may exist. They may use glowing Christian SOUNDING words. But they mean something entirely different from being Brothers in Christ’s Blood.

They essentially mean what OThuga means when he enlists youth in his Gestapo Brothers movement. Conformity to his will and orders at all costs.

Furthermore, We still remember with deep affection the dialogue We had with various non Christian individuals and communities in Bombay. So once again We ask these brothers of Ours to do all in their power to promote living conditions truly worthy of the children of God.

To All Men of Good Will
83. Finally, We look to all men of good will, reminding them that civil progress and economic development are the only road to peace. Delegates to international organizations, public officials, gentlemen of the press, teachers and educators—all of you must realize that you have your part to play in the construction of a new world order. We ask God to enlighten and strengthen you all, so that you may persuade all men to turn their attention to these grave questions and prompt nations to work toward their solution .

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Delegates to international organizations, public officials, gentlemen of the press, teachers and educators—all of you must realize that you have your part to play in the construction of a new world order.

EXCUSE ME!!!! HOW IS THIS ASSERTION DIFFERENT FROM SIMILAR ASSERTIONS BY the likes of Kissenger, Soros, Brezenski, Bush Sr, Carter, Shrillery or OThuga???? It’s not. It says the same thing and obviously must mean essentially the same thing. Horrific.

Educators, you should resolve to inspire young people with a love for the needy nations. Gentlemen of the press, your job is to place before our eyes the initiatives that are being taken to promote mutual aid, and the tragic spectacle of misery and poverty that people tend to ignore in order to salve their consciences. Thus at least the wealthy will know that the poor stand outside their doors waiting to receive some left-overs from their banquets.

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Uhhhh . . . OK. Maybe.

To Government Authorities
84. Government leaders, your task is to draw your communities into closer ties of solidarity with all men, and to convince them that they must accept the necessary taxes on their luxuries and their wasteful expenditures in order to promote the development of nations and the preservation of peace. Delegates to international organizations, it is largely your task to see to it that senseless arms races and dangerous power plays give way to mutual collaboration between nations, a collaboration that is friendly, peace oriented, and divested of self-interest, a collaboration that contributes greatly to the common development of mankind and allows the individual to find fulfillment.

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Nice words. In the context of globalist realities, they pale dreadfully in import.

To Thoughtful Men
85. It must be admitted that men very often find themselves in a sad state because they do not give enough thought and consideration to these things. So We call upon men of deep thought and wisdom—Catholics and Christians, believers in God and devotees of truth and justice, all men of good will—to take as their own Christ's injunction, "Seek and you shall find." (69) Blaze the trails to mutual cooperation among men, to deeper knowledge and more widespread charity, to a way of life marked by true brotherhood, to a human society based on mutual harmony.

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“. . . true brotherhood . . .” “. . . a human society based on mutual harmony.”

Sorry. That doesn’t cut it. The ONLY LASTINGLY CONSTRUCTIVE BROTHERHOOD is that based on the blood relationship IN CHRIST’S BLOOD. All other brotherhood is destructively & suicidally polluted with sin. No harmony outside of harmony IN AND THROUGH CHRIST, HIS BLOOD AND HIS SPIRIT will ever produce anything lastingly good.

This secular humanist ‘harmony’ of the globalist oligarchy is founded in hell and will bear the fruits of hell. I’d have thought that a Pontiff would have known this and sought to make a clear distinction about such facts and issues.

To All Promoters of Development
86. Finally, a word to those of you who have heard the cries of needy nations and have come to their aid. We consider you the promoters and apostles of genuine progress and true development. Genuine progress does not consist in wealth sought for personal comfort or for its own sake; rather it consists in an economic order designed for the welfare of the human person, where the daily bread that each man receives reflects the glow of brotherly love and the helping hand of God.

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Balderdash. The bread proffered through the globalist oligarchy will have strangling strings attached and will reflect NOTHING of Christian Brotherly Love nor of the helping hand of God.

87. We bless you with all Our heart, and We call upon all men of good will to join forces with you as a band of brothers. Knowing, as we all do, that development means peace these days, what man would not want to work for it with every ounce of his strength? No one, of course. So We beseech all of you to respond wholeheartedly to Our urgent plea, in the name of the Lord.

Given at Rome, at St. Peter's, on the feast of the Resurrection, March 26, 1967, in the fourth year of Our pontificate.

PAUL VI

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WOW.

I’m reminded of the Scripture about how the Anti-Christ will

MAKE WAR, WITH PEACE.

I suppose I was vainly hoping that the Pontiff would somehow neutralize the brazenly globalist assertion in the quote that brought me to this encyclical. He did not. I’m greatly saddened that even back in 1967, he was clearly on board with the global agenda of the satanic globalist oligarchy.

I would love to be able to honestly conclude otherwise. The evidence just does not allow me to do so.

May all Christians of every flavor and brand prayerfully ponder this evidence and these issues. May they prepare their hearts, spirits and families for the looming implications.

BLESSED BE THE NAME AND WORD OF THE LORD. WATCH, PREPARE, LOOK UP! MARANATHA!


84 posted on 05/25/2009 6:37:15 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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