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To: DouglasKC
If you did you didn't process it because I used Scripture itself to prove that the Tradition Moses received on Mt. Sinai is absolutely essential and that the Torah can't be understood without it.

You didn't use scripture to prove this:

First of all, I did. You simply rejected it outright based on your presuppositions. Second, if there is an authentic Oral Tradition (and I said an authentic one; I never claimed that all "traditions" are equally from G-d) then your demand that I prove this based on your assumptions--the very assumptions I am arguing against--is fallacious.

Your claim that G-d commanded "waving" and "heaving" but did not mandate how this was to be done--as well as your total dismissal of the obvious fact that the Authentic Oral Tradition is what made the Written Torah possible and has kept in in existence all these millenia and that it could not exist without it--simply illustrates your own groundless dogmatism.

And btw, forgive me, but I don't think you're on the same spiritual level as Ezekiel, much less Betzalel and 'Ohali'av.

99 posted on 05/27/2009 7:24:17 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Bachodesh hashelishi letze't Benei-Yisra'el me'Eretz Mitzrayim; bayom hazeh ba'u Midbar Sinai.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
You didn't use scripture to prove this: First of all, I did. You simply rejected it outright based on your presuppositions. Second, if there is an authentic Oral Tradition (and I said an authentic one; I never claimed that all "traditions" are equally from G-d) then your demand that I prove this based on your assumptions--the very assumptions I am arguing against--is fallacious.

So what do you mean by "authentic?" Can an authentic tradition be wrong?

Your claim that G-d commanded "waving" and "heaving" but did not mandate how this was to be done--as well as your total dismissal of the obvious fact that the Authentic Oral Tradition is what made the Written Torah possible and has kept in in existence all these millenia and that it could not exist without it--simply illustrates your own groundless dogmatism.

Well thanks. Did God specify how far apart to place your feet when you're waving and heaving? Did he specify the exact angle your head should be at? Did he specify the exact distance that your fingers should be spread? Did he specify the exact length the hairs on your arms needed to be when you waved or heaved? Is there no authentic tradition for these things?

And btw, forgive me, but I don't think you're on the same spiritual level as Ezekiel, much less Betzalel and 'Ohali'av.

I supported from scripture that the tabernacle could have been built and was built without tradition. I showed that God infused people with his spirit to give them the wisdom and knowledge of how to do the things he wanted done. And your response is to dismiss it by comparing my spirituality to biblical figures? Do you not think God could do the same thing to a lowly sinner like myself if he so chose?

100 posted on 05/27/2009 10:07:23 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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