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To: Quix; Jo Nuvark; TaraP

You’ll note I referred to *this attitude* up above...

“Today, it is hardly even recalled except by those who are making polemical arguments against Zionism.”

That is the last sentence of the quote I include below...


The Uganda Proposal is part of the Timeline of Zionism.

This proposal was made by Theodore Herzl in 1903, reluctantly, toward the end of his life when he found that all his efforts had made absolutely no progress toward convincing the British (occupying Palestine) that the Jews deserved a homeland in Palestine. His attitude was that, as ridiculous as a Jewish homeland outside of Palestine might seem, it could still function to save Jewish lives in the event that any Jewish community anywhere in the world faced fresh persecutions. (It was the roaring anti-Semitism that erupted in France during the Dreyfus affair that convinced Herzl the Jews must have a homeland.) He wondered if the British might be willing to give Jews a place of their own outside of Palestine, and at various times considered Madagascar, and Uganda.

The idea got virtually no support from any of the other Zionists. The reason why is interesting to consider. Herzl was rather unique, in that he was utterly assimilated, having grown up with nearly no knowledge of the religion, or Jewish values and principles. (It was probably this external perspective that enabled him to see the Jews as a national group, instead of as a religious group.) But, for the other Zionists, who spanned a wide range of religious practice yet had all grown up with a better understanding of Jewish ideas, it was inconceivable that any land other than the ancient homeland be considered for the location of a Jewish state. So, in short, the Uganda proposal very quickly went nowhere. Today, it is hardly even recalled except by those who are making polemical arguments against Zionism.

[ http://www.economicexpert.com/a/Uganda:Proposal.html ]


The Zionist Jews (and perhaps some other Jews, too...) are extremely sensitive to this being brought up, and I’ve noticed that their reactions have created some changes in the “history” as it’s recounted today. In other words, a bit of “re-writing” of things to make it seem a bit different than it was.

I believe this was a much more serious proposal than many of the Jewish Zionists make it out to be. Of course, there was opposition, but... “where there are three Jews, there are four opinions”... too... LOL...

Now, mind you, I don’t support (wasn’t alive back then, but indicating my attitude towards it) the “Uganda Solution” either. I would have been part of that Premillennial, Dispensational Evangelical crowd, back then, to lobby Herzl to consider “Palestine (i.e., Israel) and not Uganda. But, I’ve been attacked here on Free Republic for bringing that up and my “aims” in doing so were questioned... :-)

BUT, even if Herzl was a totally and “utterly assimilated” Jew, we can see that God uses all people and all types, in order to carry out His will — and that *will* of God, includes the re-establishment of Israel as a *nation* before Him — and *forever* too...

There is *no Replacement Theology* with God.

The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist, and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.


457 posted on 05/26/2009 9:16:26 AM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Star Traveler

This was fascinating. It puts Replacement Theology, Zionism, Israel and Dispensationalism in clearer context. Israel is the Key to understanding end time events.


463 posted on 05/27/2009 6:56:57 AM PDT by marbren
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