I would appreciate it if you would stop the falsehoods and slander. It is unbecoming of someone who is espousing a futurist view that is less than 200 years old, and has been parlayed by many cults.
Not to mention that your view has little basis in the Bible, and is mainly arrived at by employing the same literalist techniques of the rabbis in Jesus’ day who missed Him as Messiah because there were looking for a political king. They were just as confused as modern Jews and many Zionist Christians.
The true children of Abraham are those who have been washed in the blood of Messiah Jesus. Not those who claim some physical or cultural lineage.
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. (Gal. 3)Membership in Biblical Israel is by faith alone by Christ alone.
28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; 29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God. (Rom 2)Make your case from the Bible (if you can) and leave the demons alone.
I’m calling it — as it is — that anyone who has a theology that dismisses the significance of Israel as a nation before God, forevermore, in the land, and with the Jews — is — preaching or teaching “doctrines of demons” — as that’s exactly Satan’s plan to rid the world of Israel and the Jews.
Sorry, it’s simply *doctrines of demons* and any theology that promotes it, is promoting that same doctrine of demons...
[... Make your case from the Bible (if you can) and leave the demons alone...]
You’re being sarcastic, right? If not
I suggest you try reading Star Traveler’s
Scripture packed posts, BEFORE you type.
Paul talks about Israel in the context of a “nation” and as a “people”, and how God will deal with them. And, as we have seen, already, God will have Israel as a nation, before him, forevermore.
This is much Bible quoting below, BUT, it’s essential to understand how Paul has told us about Israel, through the direct and divine inspiration of the Holy Spirit upon him
Note, at the end...
26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: “The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob;
27 For this is My covenant with them, When I take away their sins.”
Romans 10:1-2
1 Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel* is that they may be saved.
2 For I bear them witness that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge.
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Romans 10:18-21; 11:1-32
18 But I say, have they not heard? Yes indeed: “Their sound has gone out to all the earth, And their words to the ends of the world.”
19 But I say, did Israel not know? First Moses says: “I will provoke you to jealousy by those who are not a nation, I will move you to anger by a foolish nation.”
20 But Isaiah is very bold and says: “I was found by those who did not seek Me; I was made manifest to those who did not ask for Me.”
21 But to Israel he says: “All day long I have stretched out My hands To a disobedient and contrary people.”
1 I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 God has not cast away His people whom He foreknew. Or do you not know what the Scripture says of Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel, saying,
3 “Lord, they have killed Your prophets and torn down Your altars, and I alone am left, and they seek my life”?
4 But what does the divine response say to him? “I have reserved for Myself seven thousand men who have not bowed the knee to Baal.”
5 Even so then, at this present time there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
6 And if by grace, then it is no longer of works; otherwise grace is no longer grace. But if it is of works, it is no longer grace; otherwise work is no longer work.
7 What then? Israel has not obtained what it seeks; but the elect have obtained it, and the rest were blinded.
8 Just as it is written: “God has given them a spirit of stupor, Eyes that they should not see And ears that they should not hear, To this very day.”
9 And David says: “Let their table become a snare and a trap, A stumbling block and a recompense to them.
10 Let their eyes be darkened, so that they do not see, And bow down their back always.”
11 I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles.
12 Now if their fall is riches for the world, and their failure riches for the Gentiles, how much more their fullness!
13 For I speak to you Gentiles; inasmuch as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry,
14 if by any means I may provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh and save some of them.
15 For if their being cast away is the reconciling of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? 16 For if the firstfruit is holy, the lump is also holy; and if the root is holy, so are the branches.
17 And if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them, and with them became a partaker of the root and fatness of the olive tree,
18 do not boast against the branches. But if you do boast, remember that you do not support the root, but the root supports you.
19 You will say then, “Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in.”
20 Well said. Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Do not be haughty, but fear.
21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, He may not spare you either.
22 Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off.
23 And they also, if they do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.
24 For if you were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, who are natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.
26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: “The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob;
27 For this is My covenant with them, When I take away their sins.”
28 Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake, but concerning the election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers.
29 For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.
30 For as you were once disobedient to God, yet have now obtained mercy through their disobedience,
31 even so these also have now been disobedient, that through the mercy shown you they also may obtain mercy.
32 For God has committed them all to disobedience, that He might have mercy on all.
Only the ones who deny God’s truth and want to adhere to the “doctrines of demons” which are designed to *destroy* Israel will say that Israel is not a nation before God any more (as in prophecy and in the plan of God for things to come, yet to be...).
a futurist view that is less than 200 years old,
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Yet another brazen falsehood brought to us by the
rubber Bible, rubber history, rubber logic crowd.