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To: wmfights; Quix; TaraP; Jo Nuvark; raynearhood; the_Watchman; topcat54; Lee N. Field

Oh.., and I should add that the number “1,000” — well..., Jesus never intended you to take Him seriously. I mean, He was just guessing how long it would take for y’all to make things “safe” for Him to come back.

But, 2,000 years..., come on, I can imagine that Jesus is getting mighty impatient with y’all — for taking so long to set things up for Him.

Not until you’ve got war ended, all the social ills taken care of and cured and not until you have made this a “Heaven on earth” is Jesus gonna even “think” about returning. I mean, He’s got it “good” right now up in Heaven, so why do you think He’s going to come back to a hell-hole?

Come on... get real! LOL...


202 posted on 05/21/2009 5:34:09 PM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler
and I should add that the number “1,000” — well..., Jesus never intended you to take Him seriously. I mean, He was just guessing how long it would take for y’all to make things “safe” for Him to come back.

The cattle on the thousand and first hill -- who do they belong to?

204 posted on 05/21/2009 6:25:32 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("I've studied bible prophecy 30 years." usually means "I've never hear of Geerhardus Vos.")
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To: Star Traveler

LOL.

Though impacting willful blindness; willful cluelessness;

willful resistance to Holy Spirit illuminating God’s Word . . .

is a tall order.


210 posted on 05/21/2009 6:53:15 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Star Traveler; wmfights; Quix; TaraP; Jo Nuvark; the_Watchman; topcat54; Lee N. Field
Very simply, some people preach a “weenie Jesus” who “hides out in your heart” — until you (all the Christians) take over the world by storm — and when things “check out okay and it’s *safe* for Him” — then Jesus will show His face here...

He wants to make darned sure that Satan isn’t around before He comes back, doncha know. :-)

But, 2,000 years..., come on, I can imagine that Jesus is getting mighty impatient with y’all — for taking so long to set things up for Him.


You are way off here. None of us non-dispies believe that Christ's return has anything to do with anything we do. Your reply is a blatant misrepresentation of historic eschatology, silly, and pretty close to an insult born of ignorance.

"wussie Jesus,""safe" for His return...?! C'mon, that's just sad.

Perhaps you've missed all the past discussion where we've asserted that upon His return Christ will bring judgement to the world and destruction to the wicked.

No snatching away the believers at the Second Coming 7 years before His, what, third coming. Nope, just one Second Coming on the Day of the Lord bringing destruction to the wicked "like a thief in the night."

Oh.., and I should add that the number “1,000” — well..., Jesus never intended you to take Him seriously. I mean, He was just guessing how long it would take for y’all to make things “safe” for Him to come back.

I have no earthly clue where you get this from. But, fine, I'll play along:

I have almost no problem with historic premillennialism. I don't agree with the interpretation and I think that it misses alot on the Sovereignty of God, but, at least it keeps the chosen of God as one body under the reign of Christ. Thing is though, Chialism pretty much died off in the early church leaving two dominate eschatological systems - post-mil and -amil. These systems disagree on some of the finer points of the end times, but, all in all they are able to play well with each other. To this day they remain the dominate eschatological systems in all Christendom.

So, I ask, give me one example of a dispensational theologian in the historic Church between Augustine's time and say Jonathan Edwards' time. Just one between the 2nd century and 1830. Then tell me if this statement from your reply #191 applies to EVERY CHRISTIAN before the 1830s:

Really?! How can anyone call themselves a Christian and not believe that. I wouldn’t be believing other kinds of “doctrines of demons” if I were other so-called Christians... :-)

Then tell me whether EVERY CHRISTIAN before 1830, all of whom followed these "doctrines of demons," are going to burn or not. Then explain why your baby doctrine is the only doctrine worthy of being followed by true Christians. Augustine, Jerome, Knox, Luther, Ireaneus, Calvin, Edwards, Sproul, Whitefield, Wesley, et al. called themselves Christians and didn't "believe that"... so they must have been "so-called Christians", eh?
213 posted on 05/21/2009 7:06:44 PM PDT by raynearhood ("Naysayers for Jesus" - Charter Member)
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