[ScubieNuc]

I did not write this, but after reading it, it opened my eyes. This makes sense and is supported Biblically. I understand that many will argue against this (as I used to do), but don't expect me to be able to respond to all objections. I am mainly posting to see what reasoned responses it gets and to inform others of things I didn't realize until recently. Enjoy.

[swmobuffalo]

So what is the explanation of the parable of Lazarus and the rich man??

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

Mat 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.

Mat 10:15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

So, if annihilation is given to the unsaved why not “eat drink and be merry”, be evil and swift annihilation awaits you. No punishment! just a swift soul death!

[Just mythoughts]

There is only one named entity that has been to date judge for ‘annihilation’. Lucifer, the ‘first’ fallen, or Satan, and all the rest of the names/roles he has and will play. There are a numbered, 7,000 that will received that judgment on the first day of the Day of the Lord.

I found Isaiah 14:12-32 and then Ezekiel 28:12-26 that described what will happen to the devil to be the nearest specific description of what happens to those who with full knowledge choose to join the devil.

Specifically verse 18 ...therefore will I bring a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

The devil is supernatural so this ‘fire’ is imo not the kind of fire at a dump, but a fire yet to be brought forth.

[Space Patrol Hoppa]

Thank you for this interesting post. While I disagree with the conclusions drawn by the author, I did find it informative.

For the record, here is the Catholic teaching on Hell, from the Catechism of the Catholic Church, I, Sec.2, Ch. 3, Art. 12, ss 4:

IV. HELL

1033 / We cannot be united with God unless we freely choose to love him. But we cannot love God if we sin gravely against him, against our neighbor or against ourselves: "He who does not love remains in death. Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life abiding in him." Our Lord warns us that we shall be separated from him if we fail to meet the serious needs of the poor and the little ones who are his brethren. To die in mortal sin without repenting and accepting God's merciful love means remaining separated from him for ever by our own free choice. This state of definitive self- exclusion from communion with God and the blessed is called "hell."

1034 / Jesus often speaks of "Gehenna" of "the unquenchable fire" reserved for those who to the end of their lives refuse to believe and be converted, where both soul and body can be lost. Jesus solemnly proclaims that he "will send his angels, and they will gather... all evil doers, and throw them into the furnace of fire," and that he will pronounce the condemnation: "Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire!"

1035 / The teaching of the Church affirms the existence of hell and its eternity. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, "eternal fire." The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God, in whom alone man can possess the life and happiness for which he was created and for which he longs.

1036 / The affirmations of Sacred Scripture and the teachings of the Church on the subject of hell are a call to the responsibility incumbent upon man to make use of his freedom in view of his eternal destiny. They are at the same time an urgent call to conversion: "Enter by the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is easy, that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many. For the gate is narrow and the way is hard, that leads to life, and those who find it are few."

Since we know neither the day nor the hour, we should follow the advice of the Lord and watch constantly so that, when the single course of our earthly life is completed, we may merit to enter with him into the marriage feast and be numbered among the blessed, and not, like the wicked and slothful servants, be ordered to depart into the eternal fire, into the outer darkness where "men will weep and gnash their teeth."

1037 / God predestines no one to go to hell; for this, a willful turning away from God (a mortal sin) is necessary, and persistence in it until the end. In the Eucharistic liturgy and in the daily prayers of her faithful, the Church implores the mercy of God, who does not want "any to perish, but all to come to repentance":

Father, accept this offering
from your whole family.
Grant us your peace in this life,
save us from final damnation,
and count us among those you have chosen.

[Elsie]

This makes sense and is supported Biblically.

Jesus said...

John 3:18
Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.

I wonder what happens to folks who are CONDEMNED?

[who knows what evil?]

Bkmrk.

[BikerTrash]

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