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To: betty boop

[[We don’t have to bring God or anything supernatural on-stage to speak of final causes.]]

The naturalist endows nature with that role- despite hte fact nature is incapable of supernatural acts with purpose

Informaiton, and hte succesful communication of it within the whole metainformation system, screams out purpose, and it screams out intelligence- there simply is no way to seperate the need for intelliguence from the evidnece, nor is htere a way to relegate the purpose, the creation, the assembly, and the colloperation of all systems within life to nature- The whole heirarchal system of information speaks very clearly to the need for an intelligent organizer- just as viewing hte 747 would by someone who had never seen one before- with the myriad of complex irreducible parts in both life and the 747, one simply can not argue that natuire is capable such complex, highly integrated, and itnerdependent system arrangements- not logicvally anyway


998 posted on 06/27/2009 8:27:07 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop; Alamo-Girl; allmendream; LeGrande; TXnMA
The whole hierarchal system of information speaks very clearly to the need for an intelligent organizer — just as viewing the 747 would by someone who had never seen one before — with the myriad of complex irreducible parts in both life and the 747, one simply can not argue that nature is capable such complex, highly integrated, and interdependent system arrangements — not logically anyway

Indeed CottShop. Still it seems to me that questions regarding the "intelligent organizer" are higher-order questions that science is really not equipped to deal with, and wouldn't be even if it decided to admit first and final causes back into its method.

Nonetheless, as Chandra Wickramasinghe put it, "The chances that life just occurred are about as unlikely as a typhoon blowing through a junkyard and constructing a Boeing 747.”

We do well to keep that in mind.

999 posted on 06/27/2009 8:43:15 AM PDT by betty boop (Tyranny is always whimsical. — Mark Steyn)
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