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To: MissTickly; betty boop; xzins; hosepipe; P-Marlowe; MHGinTN
Thank you for your reply!

me: “The above is an anthropomorphism of God, it imposes human traits on One Who is not human. “

You: Honestly, I have a hard time taking this answer seriously, what would you call that kind of need? I only know humans, I cannot be worried about being judged for having rational thoughts based on my experiences in life.

When people anthropomorphize God, they are not being rational.

We are all creatures “in” space/time. We have very limited sensory perception and our mental abilities are finite. Space/time is finite.

Cosmic microwave background radiation measurements since the 1960’s consistently agree that space/time is expanding, that there was a beginning of real space and real time in this universe. That was the most theological statement ever to come out of modern science (Jastrow) – “In the beginning” (Genesis 1, John 1)

In the absence of space, things cannot exist.

In the absence of time, events cannot occur.

Physical causality requires space and time. Indeed, all physical cosmologies (multi-verse, multi-world, imaginary time, cyclic, ekpyrotic, etc.) rely on space/time for physical causation. That is the poison pill to atheism.

There had to be an uncaused cause of space/time and therefore, physical causation. And the only candidate for uncaused cause is God.

So even if a person has no spiritual discernment whatsoever – no “ears to hear” – still, if he is a rational thinker and cares to think about the evidence as objectively as he can, he will conclude that God is and also, that man cannot measure Him, cannot put Him under a microscope, observe Him with a telescope, draw pictures of Him or subject Him to mortal judgments, etc.

He might be Deist, he might think that God started it and then walked away or ceased to exist, he might rationalize Him in Platonic or Aristotlean terms or vague philosophies or mysticisms - but the evidence is so great, the rational man would not ignore it.

Those who do ignore the evidence are the type 1 atheists in my post #45. Marxism is fueled by them precisely because they are not rational thinkers.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: - Romans 1:20

God’s Name is I AM.


91 posted on 04/06/2009 8:05:09 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
Thank you for the ping, BTW. ;^)
96 posted on 04/06/2009 8:20:43 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Alamo-Girl; MissTickly; xzins; hosepipe; P-Marlowe; MHGinTN
Those who do ignore the evidence are the type 1 atheists in my post #45. Marxism is fueled by them precisely because they are not rational thinkers.

Sad but true, dearest sister in Christ.

I commend you for these wonderful insights:

So even if a person has no spiritual discernment whatsoever – no “ears to hear” – still, if he is a rational thinker and cares to think about the evidence as objectively as he can, he will conclude that God is and also, that man cannot measure Him, cannot put Him under a microscope, observe Him with a telescope, draw pictures of Him or subject Him to mortal judgments, etc.

He might be Deist, he might think that God started it and then walked away or ceased to exist, he might rationalize Him in Platonic or Aristotlean terms or vague philosophies or mysticisms - but the evidence is so great, the rational man would not ignore it.

So beautiful — and truthful.

Thank you oh so much for your outstanding essay/post!

131 posted on 04/06/2009 11:18:11 AM PDT by betty boop (All truthful knowledge begins and ends in experience. — Albert Einstein)
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