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To: LeGrande

snip: I think your problem is with the definition of predictable.

If I state that the sun will come up tomorrow is that a prediction or an observation? I would call it an observation that the earth is spinning. If I state that you will die at some time in the future, again, is that on observation or prediction? I would call that an observation that everyone dies.

Spirited: You are cutting hairs. To predict is to foretell events. We can only foretell events-—however imperfectly— because past (historic) observations have fallen into certain patterns, thus allowing us to predict. If Darwinism is paradoxically true and all things happen by chance, then it stands to reason that the sun for instance, ought to behave erratically rather than predicatably.

snip: With that definition in place, is Darwinism (and Science in General) based on prediction or observation

Spirited: Darwinism needs to be separated from true science, for Darwinism is in fact an ‘anti-creation mythos’ based on a miraculous event-—life spontaneously created itself from nothing— that occurred long before time began. All who believe in Darwinism-—as you do-— do so by faith-—blind faith.


883 posted on 06/23/2009 9:12:25 AM PDT by spirited irish
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To: spirited irish
Spirited: You are cutting hairs. To predict is to foretell events. We can only foretell events-—however imperfectly— because past (historic) observations have fallen into certain patterns, thus allowing us to predict.

That isn't the religious definition of prediction. Religious predictions are from faith.

If Darwinism is paradoxically true and all things happen by chance, then it stands to reason that the sun for instance, ought to behave erratically rather than predicatably.

The observation is that the Earth is spinning and that it will continue to spin unless acted upon by an outside force. That observation allows predictions to be made from general observations to specifics. The same applies to the theory of evolution, it allows specific predictions following general observations.

Darwinism needs to be separated from true science, for Darwinism is in fact an ‘anti-creation mythos’ based on a miraculous event-—life spontaneously created itself from nothing— that occurred long before time began. All who believe in Darwinism-—as you do-— do so by faith-—blind faith.

That is simply a straw man argument.

The theory of evolution doesn't say anything about the origin of life and it doesn't attempt to explain it. Similarly the theory of relativity doesn't say anything the origin of the Universe or attempt to explain it.

886 posted on 06/23/2009 9:48:02 AM PDT by LeGrande (I once heard a smart man say that you canÂ’t reason someone out of something that they didnÂ’t reaso)
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