[betty boop]

God did things in a magical mystical way beyond understanding that he is somehow less of a God to you. To me a God who created the mechanism whereby all things would come about under his guidance is a lot more powerful and foresighted than one who has to go “poof”.

Boil it all down, allmendream, and what we have is this: You would make yourself the measure of God.

Or so it seems to me. FWIW.

p.s.: On that dated "mechanism" stuff. The Universe is not a machine and the Creation event was not a construction job — a mere assemblage of parts. For the Creation has a Telos, an Omega — a divine Purpose. Machines do not have purposes of their own.

[allmendream]

You are the one insisting that unless God went “poof” he is somehow less of a God to you; thus it seems to me that it is you who is attempting to measure and limit God, not myself.

Science can only deal with things “mechanical”. And a machine does have a purpose, and was created for a purpose; just as our universe has a purpose and was created for a purpose. The machine I create doesn't need to be magical for it to be an embodiment of my intent and purposes.

So if creation was a “mechanical assemblage of parts”, somewhat knowable and predictable by scientific means; that diminishes God to you more so than if it was a magical assemblage of parts?