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This is true, of course. But the Sun is in the same place that it was 8.5 minutes ago, which is where we see it. This is because the apparent motion is due not to the Sun revolving around us, but to our rotation, and these are not relative.

You are correct Zero Sum. I mistakenly thought they were relative, your explanation of the inertial-noninertial frames is what did it for me. That and when I tried to shoot your LAZER at the sun and make both frames equivalent. They aren't.

Mrjesse and Fichori you were essentially correct too and I would like to apologize for cavalierly dismissing your arguments and I would like to thank you both for your persistence in helping to show me my error : )

This is a very good day. I have been humbled a little bit and I have learned a couple of valuable lessons : )

This is a very good day. I have been humbled a little bit and I have learned a couple of valuable lessons : )

It is always a good day when we are humbled. Humility is something in which I am sorely lacking and for which I need to remember to pray every day.

God bless.

Said LeGrande:
You are correct Zero Sum. I mistakenly thought they were relative, your explanation of the inertial-noninertial frames is what did it for me. That and when I tried to shoot your LAZER at the sun and make both frames equivalent. They aren't.

Mrjesse and Fichori you were essentially correct too and I would like to apologize for cavalierly dismissing your arguments and I would like to thank you both for your persistence in helping to show me my error : )

This is a very good day. I have been humbled a little bit and I have learned a couple of valuable lessons : )

Thank you, LeGrande.

*Sigh* [Big sigh of relief.]

Looking back, Wow. what an experience. And what learning. And for almost a year. This discussion started Mon 30 Jun 2008, and finally came to a close Sun 14 Jun 2009, just 16 days short of its first anniversary.

You know, it's been about 4 months since I introduced my list of color coded questions. You know, that was almost providential that you had the foresight to not answer any of those. How did you know, anyway? In an honest days course, I do wonder if maybe you somehow knew. Like I said, what an experience. I will never be quite the same again, but I'm glad. I learned a lot of fascinating stuff along the way. Thank you.

Anyway, if I recall correctly, we were discussing waves of nothing, when we got sidetracked. I would enjoy taking up where we left off, if you too would enjoy it. Maybe we can all learn even more. Wouldn't that be fun?

Have a wonderful day,

-Jesse