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To: Hank Kerchief; betty boop; Alamo-Girl
[ No, that is a mistake. Every true statement is always true. ]

You have stumbled on the "observer problem"..

What one observer sees/notices can be occluded to another observer.. due to time or qualia or position.. Assuming humans can even see reality clearly or at all..

As I said, as Jesus said, reality and truth is not in a statement, theory, assumed fact, or mental figment but in a person.. Jesus is truth.. Its hard to get your mind around that at least for me.. But if, Jesus is truth, everything else isn't, by itself..

It is possible humans with picayune sensory organs and multifarious mental problems(blind spots) cannot see universal reality as it is... Truth then would be "roll your own" observations.. basically opinion.. The life of a scientific fact is timestamped..

1,090 posted on 06/29/2009 8:34:57 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe
And you, with your "picayune sensory organs and multifarious mental problems (blind spots) [who] cannot see universal reality as it is," how do you know this?

There is only reality, dear. Have no idea what you think "universal reality" would mean.

It still amazes me that people who think human intelligence is so feeble are nevertheless absolutely cconvinced their grasp of concepts written in a language they cannot read, translated by people they do not know, still gives them certain knowledge. You'll have to explain how you do that with your puny "finite" intellect. (I'm not accusing you of anything, just using the language that is used with me. I think your mind is fine. Just don't agree with how you are using it.)

Hank

1,093 posted on 06/29/2009 12:06:10 PM PDT by Hank Kerchief
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To: hosepipe; betty boop
The life of a scientific fact is timestamped..

So very true. Ditto for the observer's observations.

That is the enormous blind-spot of the Newtonian paradigm which rejects formal and final cause on principle and which can only anticipate by syntactical encoding, e.g. Fibonacci series - entirely unaware of the semantical ambience of nature (Rosen model) much less so that which is Spiritual!

1,096 posted on 06/29/2009 12:34:11 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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