[Hank Kerchief]

“Let me put it another way. Say that I have a theory that all swans are white. This is a testable (falsifiable) theory.”

Please do not insult me with this academic sophistry. That is exactly what an unscientific (unfalsifiable) hypothesis is. It’s what has become wrong with all science. Real science is cannot be done by surveys, just because it is never possible to know you’ve surveyed everything. It is exactly this kind of nonsens Popper was trying to prevent.

Here I have a theory. Weakened infectious organisms can be injected into a person and it will make them immune to the disease the organism causes. Of course it can never be proved, right?

I have another theory. It is possible for humans to fly in machines that are heavier than air. Can’t be proved though, right?

I have another. One day men will be able to fly to the moon and back. Of course science cannot prove that?

Another unprovable theory I have is that people can be made to feel no pain while being operated on.

You stick with your post-modernist academic rejection of all knowledge and I’ll stick with reality.

Hank

[LeGrande]

Lets take Newton's law of Gravity, F = G x M1 x M2/R^2. According to you, every time I drop a ball that is 'proving' Newton's law. Therefore Newton's law is proved, it is an inviolable law of the universe, is that correct?

If that isn't correct, then explain why not? Proof is a very high bar to pass, isn't it.

Here I have a theory. Weakened infectious organisms can be injected into a person and it will make them immune to the disease the organism causes. Of course it can never be proved, right?

Are you claiming that in all cases, injections with a weakened infectious organism will make them immune to that organism? Please do a little research and you will find that your theory is not correct in all cases. Falsified.

I have another theory. It is possible for humans to fly in machines that are heavier than air. Can’t be proved though, right?

As a pilot I happen to know that an airplane must constantly displace its weight in air, in straight and level flight. If the plane doesn't displace its weight in air (becoming heavier than the air it displaces) it is no longer capable of sustained flight. Hence I have falsified your theory.

I have another. One day men will be able to fly to the moon and back. Of course science cannot prove that?

Do you know the difference between and observation and a theory? Obviously not. Do you even understand the definition of a theory?

[LeGrande]

Lets take Newton's law of Gravity, F = G x M1 x M2/R^2. According to you, every time I drop a ball that is 'proving' Newton's law. Therefore Newton's law is proved, it is an inviolable law of the universe, is that correct?

If that isn't correct, then explain why not? Proof is a very high bar to pass, isn't it.

Here I have a theory. Weakened infectious organisms can be injected into a person and it will make them immune to the disease the organism causes. Of course it can never be proved, right?

Are you claiming that in all cases, injections with a weakened infectious organism will make them immune to that organism? Please do a little research and you will find that your theory is not correct in all cases. Falsified.

I have another theory. It is possible for humans to fly in machines that are heavier than air. Can’t be proved though, right?

As a pilot I happen to know that an airplane must constantly displace its weight in air, in straight and level flight. If the plane doesn't displace its weight in air (becoming heavier than the air it displaces) it is no longer capable of sustained flight. Hence I have falsified your theory.

I have another. One day men will be able to fly to the moon and back. Of course science cannot prove that?

Do you know the difference between and observation and a theory? Obviously not. Do you even understand the definition of a theory?

[LeGrande]

Lets take Newton's law of Gravity, F = G x M1 x M2/R^2. According to you, every time I drop a ball that is 'proving' Newton's law. Therefore Newton's law is proved, it is an inviolable law of the universe, is that correct?

If that isn't correct, then explain why not? Proof is a very high bar to pass, isn't it.

Here I have a theory. Weakened infectious organisms can be injected into a person and it will make them immune to the disease the organism causes. Of course it can never be proved, right?

Are you claiming that in all cases, injections with a weakened infectious organism will make them immune to that organism? Please do a little research and you will find that your theory is not correct in all cases. Falsified.

I have another theory. It is possible for humans to fly in machines that are heavier than air. Can’t be proved though, right?

As a pilot I happen to know that an airplane must constantly displace its weight in air, in straight and level flight. If the plane doesn't displace its weight in air (becoming heavier than the air it displaces) it is no longer capable of sustained flight. Hence I have falsified your theory.

I have another. One day men will be able to fly to the moon and back. Of course science cannot prove that?

Do you know the difference between and observation and a theory? Obviously not. Do you even understand the definition of a theory?