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To: betty boop; Alamo-Girl; allmendream; TXnMA; freedumb2003; CottShop; hosepipe; metmom
I'm not speaking here of someone's purpose (i.e., a conscious agent at work). That is not the issue.

and your definition of final cause

Lastly, the final cause (telos) is the end or purpose for which the Boeing 747 exists.

You can't separate 'final cause' from 'someone's purpose.' Unless you want to change your definition of final cause.

1,005 posted on 06/27/2009 9:46:19 AM PDT by LeGrande (I once heard a smart man say that you canÂ’t reason someone out of something that they didnÂ’t reaso)
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To: LeGrande; Alamo-Girl; CottShop; TXnMA; allmendream; hosepipe; metmom
You can't separate 'final cause' from 'someone's purpose.' Unless you want to change your definition of final cause.

Not so, LeGrande. It is entirely possible to regard a final cause independently of its causal agency (i.e., "someone's purpose"). See Post #1007 for an example of how this can be done.

1,008 posted on 06/27/2009 10:36:14 AM PDT by betty boop (Tyranny is always whimsical. — Mark Steyn)
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