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God. Does it matter what one believes?
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Posted on 04/05/2009 7:36:47 PM PDT by chitteryman

What are the implications of God's existence or non-existence?


TOPICS: Skeptics/Seekers; Theology
KEYWORDS: agnosticism
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God exists or does not exist. If He exists, He either has a relationship with humans or does not. If He does, then it seems reasonable to believe He has truths about Himself that He would like us to know, and these truths must be absolutely, well, true. Also, If He exists, He either requires something of humans or He does not. If He does require something, it seems reasonable to believe that His requirements include the truth about the rightness or wrongness of human acts, i.e., moral behavior If this is true, then it is impossible that, between two opposing opinions of the morality of an act, one of them is not wrong. In other words, one opinion must be correct. So, friends, your job is to figure out on whom to lean for advice on your decisions of morality. It ain't up to you. Or then again, if there is no God, maybe it is.
1 posted on 04/05/2009 7:36:47 PM PDT by chitteryman
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To: chitteryman

ummm. WHAT ?


2 posted on 04/05/2009 7:37:45 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (AMERICA WILL SURVIVE !)
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To: chitteryman

“Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity.”


3 posted on 04/05/2009 7:39:10 PM PDT by devere
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To: chitteryman

“Mere Christianity” by C.S. Lewis


5 posted on 04/05/2009 7:41:34 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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God does exist.

He called me this morning and said that he will test me by sending me people like you.


6 posted on 04/05/2009 7:42:42 PM PDT by oldbill
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To: chitteryman

Are you sure you are not jitteryman? A little too much coffee, perhaps?


7 posted on 04/05/2009 7:43:31 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: chitteryman; Bender2

That wacky tabbaci will fry your brain.


8 posted on 04/05/2009 7:44:08 PM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("From hell's heart I stab at thee... I spit my last breath at thee." ~ Khan Noonien Singh)
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To: devere

LOL we just finished a Bible study on Ecclesiastes.


9 posted on 04/05/2009 7:48:35 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: chitteryman

Why should require anything of us? He desires something from us, but does not need.


10 posted on 04/05/2009 7:50:21 PM PDT by Nachum (the complete list at www.nachumlist.com)
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It should also be said that man is religious by nature, and will worship someone or something, from the God of the Bible to Kim Jong il to pleasure, possessions of power, which is what latter false gods like Mao worshiped.

You either worship a false, created god or the uncreated Creator.

In addition, every moral/legal system is based upon a belief system, including that which in atheistic states.

In this realm, you either have a proven transcendent objective moral authority, from the Bible to the Quran, or you rely upon an one’s own “golden compass.” The authority of the former can be abused, or it itself is an abuse, but at least it is something one by held to, while that latter offer no assurance, outside the testimony of a person’s character, which also is applicable to the former.

In this area, one might ask, would the world be better following the teachings of the Bible as understood under the New Testament, or the Quran or following atheism.

For me there is only one that qualifies, the God of the Bible, who needs nothing, but call us to obey which is for our own good.


11 posted on 04/05/2009 7:54:08 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( "O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the LORD." (Jer 22:29))
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To: Nachum

(Acts 17:25) “Neither is worshipped with men’s hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;”


12 posted on 04/05/2009 7:55:00 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( "O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the LORD." (Jer 22:29))
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To: chitteryman

Too much cold medicine tonight??


13 posted on 04/05/2009 7:57:02 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts.....)
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One of the truths that JudeoChristians believe about God, is that He is Holy, perfect. He knows no sin.

Given that God is Holy, it is reasonable that He judges man, not by some bell curve, or by the balance of good and evil in a persons life, but rather by His only standard, perfection.

Given that the standard is God’s Holy perfection, it is reasonable that He finds all of us guilty. It is also reasonble that once having sinned, there is nothing we can do to make up for it. As anything that we know to do that is good, is only what we should have done in the first place.

Finding ourselves condemned with no hope of saving ourselves, our only hope is that God saves us. And fortunately He did, when He came to earth as Jesus to pay the price for our sins.


14 posted on 04/05/2009 8:03:03 PM PDT by DannyTN
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“And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.” Micah 6:8
(the only God, not man-made gods)

This is assuming you “love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.” mark 12


15 posted on 04/05/2009 8:04:06 PM PDT by too much time (Were ANY educrats proficient at math in school?)
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"God. Does it matter what one believes?"

YES IT DOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

16 posted on 04/05/2009 8:04:38 PM PDT by BellStar (Buy Gold/lead and head for the hills please God give us another chance!)
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Hallelujah! What a Savior! Philip P. Bliss, pub.1875
Copyright: Public Domain

“Man of Sorrows!” what a name
For the Son of God, who came
Ruined sinners to reclaim.
Hallelujah! What a Savior!

Bearing shame and scoffing rude,
In my place condemned He stood;
Sealed my pardon with His blood.
Hallelujah! What a Savior!

Guilty, vile, and helpless we;
Spotless Lamb of God was He;
“Full atonement!” can it be?
Hallelujah! What a Savior!

Lifted up was He to die;
“It is finished!” was His cry;
Now in Heav’n exalted high.
Hallelujah! What a Savior!

When He comes, our glorious King,
All His ransomed home to bring,
Then anew His song we’ll sing:
Hallelujah! What a Savior!

17 posted on 04/05/2009 8:15:16 PM PDT by AUsome Joy
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A person who sees everything in relation to the Supreme Lord,
and sees all entities as His parts and parcels,
and who sees the Supreme Lord within everything,
never hates anything, nor any being.
One who always sees all living entities as spiritual sparks,
in quality one with the Lord, becomes a true knower of things.
What is there as illusion or anxiety for him

Into blinding darkness enter those who worship ignorance
and into greater darkness those who worship knowledge alone

Isavasya Upanishad

18 posted on 04/05/2009 8:19:39 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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Christianity is the only religion in which God reaches out to man in order to bring man to Himself, through His Only Son, Jesus Christ.

All other religions or cults have man doing some activity to try to please God.

Given the two choices, I choose the first.

1. I believe in God, the Father almighty, creator of heaven and earth.
2. I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord.
3. He was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit and born of the Virgin Mary.
4. He suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried.
5. He descended into hell. On the third day he rose again.
6. He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of God the Father Almighty.
7. He will come again to judge the living and the dead.
8. I believe in the Holy Spirit,
9. the holy catholic Church, the communion of saints,
10. the forgiveness of sins,
11. the resurrection of the body,
12. and the life everlasting.
Amen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDRsj9kmgrs


19 posted on 04/05/2009 8:20:19 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (The Constitution & Bill of Rights stand as a whole. Remove any part & nullify the whole.)
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"God. Does it matter what one believes?"

Three years ago Feb 2006 I found out I had lung cancer. The Dr. told me my chances were not good. Does it matter what one believes? I don't know. All I know is that I believe with all my heart that God will take care of me one way or the other. And when I found out my cancer was B3 I told him to do with me what he will. I put my life in his great hands.

They took 1/4th of my left lung. I already had asthma and emphysema and with the loss of a 1/4th of my lung and then the radiation it left me on oxygen too breathless and too weak to get off the side of my own bed.

I asked my Dr what could I do to get better. I didn't want to spend the rest of my life setting on the side of the bed hooked up to an oxygen machine. My Dr. laughed at me for even thinking I could get better. Told my "You can't get better" But I kept after him to give me the name of a lung specialist so I could ask them to tell me what I could do to get better.

I went to the lung specialist, only to have him laugh at me too for thinking that there might be something I could do to get better. I heard the same words from him, "You can't get any better"

My faith in God was all I had. That and the fact that I've always believed that can't never did anything. So I started walking a few steps every hour of the day. Take four steps, go set down. Ten minutes later take another 4, go set down. I did that all day every day.

As soon as I got to where I could walk to my kitchen I took the oxygen off. I started walking around the table stopping every couple minutes to catch my breath. I did that every day till I could make it outside.

I'd stand outside and hang on the side of my husbands jeep. I'd walk in a circle in my driveway then hang on the side of his jeep to catch my breath.

Now three years later I am still alive. I can get in my car and go do anything I want to do. I am not spending my life setting on the side of the bed hooked up to an oxygen machine like the Dr's thought I'd be for the rest of my life.

Is there a God? You betcha! Just look at what he did for me when I put my life in his great hands.


20 posted on 04/05/2009 8:46:23 PM PDT by GloriaJane (http://www.last.fm/music/Gloria+Jane/_/Baseball+Apple+Pie+And+Mom)
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