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Cherie Blair Says Catholic Church Sexist, Credits Personal Success to Contraception(Catholic Caucus)
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | 2 March 2009 | Hilary White and John Jalsevac

Posted on 03/03/2009 5:27:06 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham

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To: A.A. Cunningham

It seems to me that the Catholic Church has been a paragon of respect for women and without peer in pressing for the dignity of women. Is Cherie Blair a self-loather?


61 posted on 03/03/2009 10:33:47 AM PST by stevem
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To: Varda

And if Christ had 10 white toes, then I guess all church leaders better be white. Except, oh my, what if he really wasn’t white—then what are we doing with Polish popes?


62 posted on 03/03/2009 10:39:10 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Your argument is pretty silly.....


63 posted on 03/03/2009 10:43:46 AM PST by Varda
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To: Varda

Hello, mirror.


64 posted on 03/03/2009 10:49:15 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

Look it’s pretty clear you aren’t Catholic and you argue like a child. The caucus designation means this thread is for Catholics. The Catholic Church is composed of people who adhere to a set of beliefs. Christ founded the Church and composed it in a specific way. That way is chronicled in scripture. That way has been adhered to since the beginning. While you and Cherie Blair can stamp your feet and hold your breath and complain about the unfairness of it all, the structure is what Christ set it to be. Neither the Pope nor anyone else has the authority to change it.


65 posted on 03/03/2009 11:03:54 AM PST by Varda
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To: Romulus
Islam is mentioned at least twice in this thread.

I noticed that too but couldn't be bothered pursuing it.

The whole thing is beyond silly and a good example of the nit-picking and lack of common sense which has come to distinguish the religion board.

Back to the General Forum and the financial apocalypse, where one can speak a little more freely.

Hope all is well with you.

66 posted on 03/03/2009 11:46:20 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: 9YearLurker
gross sexism where men are the leaders and women only followers

That's fine if you're talking about General Motors. However, that isn't what the church is all about, and we do -- or at least should -- have a different idea of what constitutes "leadership".

It isn't about power. It's about service. Jesus said so himself, more than once. Rightly understood, you're complaining that women don't get to serve enough.

The least and most insignificant saint in heaven -- male or female -- is a more important "leader" in the life of the church than the reigning Pope in Rome. That's simply a fact.

"Gross sexism"? The last Pope's motto was "Totus Tuus" -- "completely yours". The person to whom he said he belonged "completely" was a Jewish peasant woman who was never rich, never powerful, never had much education, and whose only son died a humiliating death on a Roman cross.

"Completely yours". Think about it.

67 posted on 03/03/2009 1:33:54 PM PST by Campion
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To: A.A. Cunningham

What an arrrogant twit. The modern world, indeed! If you say these things to the Muzzies, they would stare at her and reply. have a nice day!


68 posted on 03/03/2009 2:58:20 PM PST by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: Houghton M.

Excellent argument!


69 posted on 03/03/2009 3:01:51 PM PST by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: NYer

I agree. Can we send flowers?


70 posted on 03/03/2009 3:02:53 PM PST by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: 9YearLurker

“So women are wrong to point out and try to counter gross sexism where men are the leaders and women only followers?”

Not merely wrong—evil.

We are all followers, and we have our own roles to play. Who is the most important human ever to live, if not the Blessed Virgin?

The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world.

Women shouldn’t even be taken seriously when they claim their problem is that they are not allowed to be “leaders.” This reflects a notion, whispered into mankind’s ear by Satan, that the noble, indespensible, and even heroic role that God ordained for women should be scorned, should be abandoned in a futile effort to fulfill instead the role he ordained for men.

Even if women were successful in this effort, the result would be grotesque.


71 posted on 03/03/2009 4:42:30 PM PST by dsc (A man with an experience is never at the mercy of a man with an argument.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Yikes! That was a quick turnaround.

Cherie gets her husband Tony Blair to convert to Catholicism, and then starts trashing the Church.... nice.


72 posted on 03/03/2009 4:47:32 PM PST by Cincinna (TIME TO REBUILD * PALIN * JINDAL * CANTOR 2012)
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To: 9YearLurker

Assuming you are Catholic you are not well catechized...

Recommend you go back to lurking for another 9 Years...

Seek first to understand THEN to be understood...


73 posted on 03/04/2009 5:12:56 PM PST by DBeers ( †)
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