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To: topcat54
Best you can do today is to be an “observant Jew” according to the rules of the rabbis who know not Jesus. Jesus never told anyone to be like that.

I apologize, I did not know that you also removed Matthew 23 from your Bible. If you followed well-documented First Century history, you would know that the Pharisee party is what reconstituded Judaism in 70 CE in Yavneh under Yochanan ben Zachia [John son of Zacheus].So, there is an unbroken line from 30 CE to modern times. You may want to order a set of Talmud, you have some catching up to do < grin >.

Matthew 23:1-3: When Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: "The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.

In all seriousness, the Talmud records Jewish believers in Messiah living among and worshipping with normative Judaism well into the Sixth Century CE. They sure weren't welcome in normative Christianity... John Chrystostom and ilk made sure of that (you know John, the "Doctor of the Church" - he learned his hatred of Jews from the most noted Justin Martyr's theology).
239 posted on 03/02/2009 6:32:39 PM PST by safisoft
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To: safisoft
But do not do what they do

I should have underlined the entire phrase. Do what they SAY, do NOT do what they do.
241 posted on 03/02/2009 6:48:35 PM PST by safisoft
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To: safisoft
I apologize, I did not know that you also removed Matthew 23 from your Bible.

You labor under the delusion that there are still men today who sit in the seat of Moses. We are not living in the first century. The Pharisees no longer exist as a political party. While the temple stood folks were under the authority of the temple order. But Christ abolished the temple system once and for all. The greater Temple is with us and we worship Him in spirit and truth.

The Talmud was authored by your apostate Jews who rejected Messiah and found every excuse to deny He had come in the flesh as the God-man to redeem His people. As the Jewish convert Alfred Edersheim wrote referring to the Talmud: “He who has thirsted and quenched his thirst at the living fount of Christ’s Teaching, can never again stoop to seek drink at the broken cisterns of Rabbinism.”

243 posted on 03/02/2009 7:39:33 PM PST by topcat54
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