Posted on 02/21/2009 6:09:00 AM PST by kindred
FOR THE PROPHECY CAME NOT IN OLD TIME BY THE WILL OF MAN: BUT HOLY MEN OF GOD SPAKE AS THEY WERE MOVED BY THE HOLY GHOST. O FOOLS, AND SLOW OF HEART TO BELIEVE ALL THAT THE PROPHETS HAVE SPOKEN-Lk 24:25. However, believing there is a God and acknowledging the Bible is the Word of God does not save a person. A person needs to admit they are a sinner, repent, and receive Jesus Christ as their only hope of being saved. This is done by faith (or trust).
Let's prove the Bible is true and we are nearing the end of the last generation before Christ returns.
1. The Jewish people would be scattered worldwide; yet Israel would become a nation again after a long time and at a time the Bible calls the "latter days"-ref Isa 66:8; Mic 5:3; Ezek 38:8. Against what appeared to be impossible odds, this prophecy has been fulfilled. It happened as predicted on May 14, 1948 after about 2500 years. Thats 1 out of 1. Note: Israel was destroyed in approximately 721 B.C. and Judah about 135 years later. Since that time, approximately fourteen different peoples have possessed the land of Israel. Yet as the Bible said, the nation of Israel would be reborn. The rebirth of Israel was a key sign, indicating we had entered a time period called the "latter days." It was the beginning of a countdown leading to the Tribulation and culminating with the Battle of Armageddon and the return of Jesus. Along with the fulfillment of this crucial event are over 360 prophecies that would all come together, so we might recognize that the Tribulation is very close at hand. Some of these are listed here. Yet the Bible foretells that most people would not believe these things, despite the overwhelming evidence of the signs from Gods Word being fulfilled exactly as predicted. As people refused to believe the flood was coming in Noahs time, so people today willingly choose to disregard the signs of the times.
2. Israel shall be brought forth in one day, at once-ref Isa 66:8. Prophecy fulfilled-May 14, 1948. Thats 2 out of 2. Note: On Nov. 29, 1947, the General Assembly of the U.N. approved a resolution calling for the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine. On the morning of May 14, 1948 (the last day of the British mandate), a meeting of the Peoples Council took place in Israel to decide on the name of the state and to finalize the declaration. At precisely 4 pm, the proclamation ceremony began at the Tel Aviv museum. The 979 Hebrew words of the Scroll of Independence were read. All stood, and the scroll was adopted. The notorious White Paper, issued by the British in 1930 restricting Jewish immigration, was declared null and void. Members of the Peoples Council signed the proclamation. David Ben-Gurion rapped his gavel, declaring, "The State of Israel is established. This meeting is ended." Israel was brought forth as a nation in one day, at once, exactly as predicted. At midnight, the British soldiers and high commissioner would leave. President Truman was swift in announcing U.S. recognition of Israel. The following morning, on May 15, Israel was under attack by the Egyptian, Syrian, Lebanese, Jordanian, and Iraqi forces.
3. Israel would be brought forth (or reborn) "out of the nations"-Ezek 38:8. Prophecy fulfilled-May 14, 1948. Thats 3 out of 3. Note: As previously stated, on Nov. 29, 1947, the General Assembly of the "United Nations" approved a resolution calling for the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine. This prophecy was perfectly fulfilled. Consider, for centuries the land of Israel had been occupied by many nations. Israel was "brought forth out of the nations"the children of Israel from many nations have been returning to their ancient homeland.
4. Israel must regain the city of Jerusalem-Joel 2:32; Isa 28:14; Ezek 22:19. This happened just as predicted in 1967. Thats 4 out of 4. Note: The Bible gives us two methods so we would know the time we are in. One is by Israels rebirth. The other, by a precise line of events that would all come together at one time. Israel was reborn on May 14th, 1948. The Bible indicates that from Israels rebirth a generation would not pass till all be fulfilled. We are not setting any date; however, it seems clear from Israels rebirth and the signs of the times that we are living in the generation in which the Rapture and Tribulation will come and catch most people by surprise. Are you ready?
5. The Christian church at the time of the end would be lukewarm, neither cold nor hot for Jesus. Prophecy fulfilled. Thats 5 out of 5. Note: God will spew them out. Many ministers and people that call themselves a Christian will not be going to heaven. The Bible tells usyou have acquired wealth, but your true condition is wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked and you dont know it-Rev 3:14-22. This is todays church. Most preachers use little Scripture, but lots of worldly stories. Many sing a great deal, but put little emphasis on repentance, obeying, serving, and fearing God, on the fruits of the Spirit, Bible prophecy, water baptism by immersion, and studying your Bible faithfully every day. Many are only entertainment centers that teach what their members want to hear. Many (so-called Christians) are so lukewarm or dead, they dont even bring their Bibles with them to the house of God. Some famous ministers and Bible schools think this is the best church age ever, yet the Bible clearly shows it is the worst and most deceived.
6. The Bible gives us over 50 descriptions about the people at the time of the end. These fit the people of today perfectly, but did not fit the people of fifty years ago. Here are some:
A. Some would depart from the faith and go into devil worship-1 Tim 4:1. This is perfect.
B. People would mock about the last days and not believe-2 Pe 3:3; Jude 18.
C. People would become lovers of themselves-2 Tim 3:1,2. Remember the TV commercials"I do it for me"?
D. People would be disobeying their parents-2 Tim 3:1,2.
E. People would be grateful for nothing-2 Tim 3:1,2.
F. Homosexuality would increase-Lk 17:28,30; ref Gen 19:5; Ro 1:24,26,27.
G. People would be without self-control in sex-2 Tim 3:1,2,6; Rev 9:21, Lk 17:28,30; Jude 7. Is this not the great sex generation?
H. People would love pleasures more than God-2 Tim 3:1,2,4. This is true. Shall we go on a picnic, watch football, or sleep. Church?we can go another time. Our American motto "In God we trust" has become a joke. Remember, these were all predicted centuries ago as part of the signs that we are at the time of the end.
I. People would be taking drugs-Rev 9:21. The Greek word for sorceries, in Rev 9:21, means pharmaceuticals or drugs. Gods Word is 100% right on every one. Thats 6 out of 6. How could you have any doubts at this point? Note: Fifty years ago, many people seldom locked their doors at night. There was little or no profanity on television, radio, or in the movies. One of the biggest problems in public school was gum chewing. Those days are long gone.
7. There would be weapons that could destroy the world-Mk 13:20; Rev 6:8; Rev 9:18; Zech 14:8,12. Incredibly, this prophecy was written in the days of spears and arrows, yet today it is true. Thats 7 out of 7. Note: It is estimated that the combined nuclear arsenals of the USA and Russia (as of the year 2004) could kill every living thing on earth 6 times over.
8. The Gospel must be published in all the world-Mk 13:10. This seemingly impossible prophecy was written when there was no printing press, but today it is true. That's 8 out of 8. Note: In this last generation, to our knowledge, the Gospel is being published (or is about to be published) in the primary language of every nation of the world or "among all nations." In addition, the Gospel is available by short-wave radio nearly everywhere in the world.
9. In the "latter days" when Israel was once again a nation, there would be a great military power to the extreme north of Israel in the land of Magog (which is modern-day Russia)-Ezek 38:2-4,8,15,16. Incredible. Thats 9 out of 9. Note: How could the Bible have foretold the location of this nation, facts about its military, and even the time period it would come to pass? As was already said in Lk 24:25-O FOOLS, AND SLOW OF HEART TO BELIEVE ALL THAT THE PROPHETS HAVE SPOKEN.
10. There would be a nation to the far east of Israel, to the end of the earth. This nation would have an army of 200 million. This is astounding. How could the Bible have told the location of a nation and given such a huge figure regarding the size of its army nearly 2000 years ago? China has boasted that they could field an army of this exact figure. Thats 10 out of 10.
11. There would be an economic alliance of the nations of the Old Roman Empire. It would have a military capability. This is an exact description of the European Economic Community today (the EEC), which has already adopted the one-currency system for many of their member nations. It is written, IN THE DAYS OF THESE KINGS (these nations, which is now) SHALL THE GOD OF HEAVEN SET UP A KINGDOM-Dan 2:44. Thats 11 out of 11. We have just reached the point that seemed impossible11 perfect predictions made thousands of years agowith God nothing is impossible. Certainly, at this point, even the biggest skeptic should see the Bible is true, there is a God, and we are nearing the time of the end.
About 22 prophecies in 11 sets have been given, all perfect and all written centuries ago. The chance that any person could do this 2000 years into the future is not possible. The Bible is the Word of God, and we have just proved it. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. Repent and get baptized by full immersion. Read and obey the Gospel. God loves you. He is not willing that any should perish, yet many do. The Rapture is close. Most people are not ready and will not be taken. However, "YOU" cannot say you did not know. Know and understand, Mt 16:26-WHAT IS A MAN PROFITED, IF HE SHALL GAIN THE WHOLE WORLD, AND LOSE HIS OWN SOUL? OR WHAT SHALL A MAN GIVE IN
This is a curious statement. There is no consensus among messianics[1], living or dead, on the matters you have raised. Not all messianics would interpret Hebrews 3 and 4 as Mr. Stern (and apparently you) wish to interpret it. Not all messianics believe in this day-year theory you have proposed. Not all messianics give as much weight to Jewish tradition as other do. Some messianics worship in traditional settings, on Sunday, using the means given to the Church long ago. Some messianics chose to not circumcise their children upon coming to faith in their Messiah, nor have they chosen to continue following the traditions of their fathers.
The Church has had access to the same 3500 years of Jewish tradition that you speak of. Most of the Reformers, for example, where far better Hebrew scholars than anyone living today. Sometimes they have found those traditions useful in studying the Word of God. Sometime they view them as a tradition to be avoided (cf. Titus 1:14). As messianic Alfred Edersheim wrote: He who has thirsted and quenched his thirst at the living fount of Christs Teaching, can never again stoop to seek drink at the broken cisterns of Rabbinism. Discernment is the key. The Church historically has exercised a great deal of discernment, albeit not always perfectly.
While no doubt anti-Semitism has existed in the Church at times, that is no excuse for folks today to ignore the teachings that have been handed down for centuries. It is unnecessarily arrogant for anyone to slough off the Churchs teachings by invoking a blanket statement of bias. The standard is still the Word of God, and neither messiancs nor gentiles have a monopoly in that department. Even your friend Mr. Stern is capable of biases that limit his ability to come to a proper interpretation of the text. E.g., Stern says, Christians often assume that the New Testament does not require Gods people to observe Shabbat and go on to claim that Sunday has replaced Saturday as the Churchs day of worship. Stern probably also knows that most theologians have a sound biblical basis for their views regarding Sunday. They simply do not give a much weight to Jewish traditions when interpreting the texts related to the subject, and they discount the overall bias of the more hard-core messiancs on the relationship of old covenant to new covenant.
Bottom line: its not being a messianic or studying messianic ways that gets you to the proper interpretation of the Bible. It is by being indwelt with the Holy Spirit and hearing the Word spoken by the Spirit to our spirits. Faithful Christians have been managing this way for centuries. There is no genetic trait that will assist you in this department.
Usually, when someone gets to this place in their argument (and invokes the A-word) its pretty plain they have run out of steam. A simply observation like the fact that the millennium of the futurist is not a place of peace and rest is met by silence, or by diversion.
The phrase Messianic Jew or Messianic Judaism is but one species of one genus of the larger family. Many folks who claim to be part of the Messianic movement are not, in fact, Jewish at all.
“Actually this supports my contention, that the dispensational axiom drives the interpretation.”
I owe you a response on this - I haven’t forgotten.
I can wait.
I can only suggest that you are deceived. Amillenialism is a heresy supported by liberal Christendom who have rejected the Word of God and disdain the prophecy of the scriptures, much as the religious rulers of Christ Jesus did at His first advent so it is now that those who deny the literal meaning of Scripture and hide under religious ceremony and traditions and contradict the clear meaning of the Holy Bible will be caught unaware and left behind.
The Body of Christ (the bible believing Christian Church will be translated (raptured in one moment in the due time) and the rest of Christendom will attend their respective sectarian church's the next Sunday, or Saturday, as the case may be. This is the spewing out of the Laodecian lukewarm church warned of in the early chapters of revelation. Let God be true and every man a liar in order that thy saying may be true and thou may overcome when thou art judged.
And you are entitled to your opinion, misinformed as it is.
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