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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop
[ And so betty boop and I have said that the difference between life v. non-life/death in nature is information (Shannon, successful communication.) ]

NOW thats a heroic attempt at explaining physical life.. and death..
Very informative.... thanks...

Amazing what one can learn by paying attention and communicating..
Excellent metaphors.. that say more than the words convey..

So the intercourse or merging of two data streams can bring new life?..
Maybe thats what "born again" means..

And what "the spirit" is, a data wave or field.. producing a new data set or database..
The "body of christ"(metaphor) then takes on a whole new dimension..
Information merged into a common (or universal)database..
With a life all its own..... Hey... THIS IS FUN...

371 posted on 01/29/2009 9:16:17 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe; betty boop; metmom; CottShop
Precisely so, dear brother in Christ!

We mortals tend to think life is the body or flesh or physical components (the donkey in your metaphor) - it nags at us continually especially as we get older or face poor health.

But if one understands that life is the information (Shannon, successful communication) - he gains a new perspective like you have expressed.

Truly, it is "about" successful communication at myriad levels in the hierarchy - and as you have noted. the harmony (or lack thereof) of those communications whether internally, or by offspring or in being "born again" in Christ.

With that view, this passage takes on new meaning:

The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. [There is] no speech nor language, [where] their voice is not heard. - Psalms 19:1-3

As does this one:

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life. – John 6:63

As does this one:

And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread. But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. - Matt 4:3-4

And most importantly, this one:

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. – John 1:1-3

Knowing you, I'd imagine a dozen more passages have come to your mind.

To God be the glory!

372 posted on 01/29/2009 9:44:32 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: hosepipe
Information merged into a common (or universal)database.. With a life all its own..... Hey... THIS IS FUN...

"With a life all its own...." Believe it or not, there are "cosmologies of wholeness" emerging that postulate the entire universe is a living being. One Logos — an algorithm from inception? — constitutes a "common" or universal information set, a/k/a "meta-information" or biological information. David Bohm referred to this as "the implicate order" of the universe....

This IS fun!

385 posted on 01/29/2009 10:47:43 AM PST by betty boop
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