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To: Coyoteman; betty boop; TXnMA
What you are in fact practicing is the exact opposite of science.

Not at all.

Science v. faith is a false dichotomy. They are not mutual exclusive.

360 posted on 01/28/2009 8:55:27 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; Coyoteman; metmom; betty boop
Alamo-Girl wrote: "As you know, I freely disclose that the most certain knowledge I possess does not come from sensory perception or reasoning but from the revelations of God in (a) the Person of Jesus Christ, (b) the Person of the Holy Spirit, (c) Scripture and (d) Creation both physical and spiritual."

js1138 wrote:

"The self imposed limitation of science is that evidence must be verifiable by anyone who uses the same methodology.

The self-imposed limitation discussed by AG is that the best evidence, by definition, cannot be verified by others."

Coyoteman wrote: "What you [A-G] are in fact practicing is the exact opposite of science."

Alamo-Girl responded: "Science v. faith is a false dichotomy. They are not mutual[ly] exclusive.

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There is, indeed, no dichotomy between faith and science.

I, as a scientist, routinely verify (and have verified by peers) observations and experimental results by employing the same methodology.

I as a Christian, routinely verify (and have verified by peers -- specifically, Alamo-Girl in this case) mutual experiences, revelations and insights by employing the same methodology (faith, prayer, study of Scripture, etc...)

js1138 and Coyoteman are wrong. There is zero conflict between my practice of science as a professional and my sure knowledge that I have a personal relationship with the One Who designed, specified, and created the physical, chemical, and biological materials and phenomena that I study.

js1138 is incompetent to aver that "The self-imposed limitation discussed by AG is that the best evidence, by definition, cannot be verified by others." -- because he refuses or is unable to employ the same methodology.

Likewise, Coyoteman is incompetent to declare a dichotomy between science and faith -- because he insists on excluding part of the applicable methodology for making that determination.

Coyoteman and js1138 are no more competent to pontificate on the faith aspects of this discussion than is the YEC adherent who denies the existence of galaxies beyond our own -- and refuses to look into the telescope.

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Alamo-Girl is correct: "Science v. faith is a false dichotomy." Only those who refuse -- or are incompetent --to practice one or the other insist that the "dichotomy" exists

363 posted on 01/28/2009 10:29:19 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...!!)
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