[metmom]

That is why science doesn't attempt to deal with absolute truth or supernatural events and causes. It's a self-imposed limitation.

That does not mean that science cannot find reliable information about past history and current phenomena.

As long as you're dealing with material, physical aspects of history inasmuch as it is subject to analysis by the scientific method, that is a possibility, BUT all it can do is indicate what appears to have happened. Any other investigation of historical evidence qualifies more as forensic investigation and analysis.

If you choose to live within you own self-contained shell and not participate in the adventure of science, that is your own self-imposed limitation.

Which is it? Is it science that has the self-imposed limitations or *the other side*?

Science is a subset of reality. How can all of reality be a subset of the study of the physical, material realm?

[hosepipe]

[ Science is a subset of reality. How can all of reality be a subset of the study of the physical, material realm? ]

Interesting point.. Physicists talking to biologists seem to be talking to their hands(biologists).. Biologists are looking in a microscope for just certain things, and Physicists seem to be looking in telescopes with one eye and looking in a microscope with the other eye

[js1138]

Which is it? Is it science that has the self-imposed limitations or *the other side*?

The self imposed limitation of science is that evidence must be verifiable by anyone who uses the same methodology.

The self-imposed limitation discussed by AG is that the best evidence, by definition, cannot be verified by others.

Take your pick.

[Alamo-Girl]

Truly, methodological naturalism focuses on a subset of "all that there is" - more specifically, it focuses on things governed by physical laws, physical causation and physical constants. Ironically, those things are not themselves physical.