I don’t really know how to phrase this any simpler. If mathematical models do not conform to physical reality, the models are defective.
Szostak is working with physical reality. If he can demonstrate self-replication and evolution arising from chemistry, it is the mathematical models that need revising, not reality.
One could hearken back to discussions of whether human powered flight is possible. There’s theory and math, and there’s experimentation.
There’s scarcely anything happening in recent work on evolution that wasn’t declared impossible based on theories of irreducible complexity, or some form of vitalism.
I find it interesting that Yockey and Dembski have undergone late life conversions on the subject of evolutionary algorithms and information. There’s even a hate Yockey site devoted to pillorying Yockey for turning against ID. Dembski hasn’t turned against ID, but he has realized that selection is a source of active information.
[[Szostak is working with physical reality. If he can demonstrate self-replication and evolution arising from chemistry, it is the mathematical models that need revising, not reality.]]
Can he do it without any intelligent intervention? Or will it take designer designed complexity in order to achieve htis?
IF it takes designer designed complexity and manipulation and protection- then this would in NO way invalidate mathematical probability statistics that measure naturalism NOT intelligently designed manipulations JS
[[There’s scarcely anything happening in recent work on evolution that wasn’t declared impossible based on theories of irreducible complexity, or some form of vitalism.]]
Really? And these are purely natural experiments without any intellgient intervention whatsoever huh? Swell- Let’s wait and see then- My prediction IF these tests and examinations are purely natural? IC is still a reality! IF however there needs to be ANY itnelligent intervention whatsoever then all it’s goign to prove is what again? Yup- An intelligent designer is needed- period.