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To: Filo

Science and things arrived at scientifically are objective.


That’s where you went off the rails.

If 50 doctors pick drug A to be the best drug for hypertension while 50 other docs pick drug B to be the best drug for hypertension and write papers supporting their findings, science is very much, in the end, subjective when it comes to my decision deciding how to lower my blood pressure.

The interpretation of science very much is subjective and scientists are influenced by politics, ideology and yes money, just like anyone else.

Global warming immediately comes to mind.


137 posted on 01/27/2009 12:05:40 PM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
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To: tpanther
That’s where you went off the rails.

Not quite

If 50 doctors pick drug A to be the best drug for hypertension while 50 other docs pick drug B to be the best drug for hypertension and write papers supporting their findings, science is very much, in the end, subjective when it comes to my decision deciding how to lower my blood pressure.

Not at all. Your doctor's choice about which drug to use is subjective, the doctors who chose which drugs to study might have been subjective, but the scientific process used to determine the efficacy of the drugs themselves is quite objective.

The research, studies, peer review, publication and so on are all guarantees that, in the end, the drugs will have been scrutinized sufficiently to give a solid estimation of the expected outcomes.

Now, if three different drugs went through three different trials and came out roughly the same for cost and effectiveness then you and your doctor are welcome to choose which to use as subjectively as you want.

The interpretation of science very much is subjective and scientists are influenced by politics, ideology and yes money, just like anyone else.

True, but that has nothing to do with the objectivity of the science itself.

Scientists are people and, as such, fallable. Science, however, will always settle on truth in the end.

Global warming immediately comes to mind.

And this is an excellent example of junk science (like ID) that is readily disproven by rigorous application of the scientific method.


192 posted on 01/27/2009 2:02:47 PM PST by Filo (Darwin was right!)
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