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[[Where does the “information” come from? the environment, via the process of selection. Bill Dembski has just authored a paper on the subject, admitting what biologists have argued all along. Selection is a source of information.]]

You are being disingenious here with htis statement- Bill Demski ADMITS that he doesn’t know where the informaiton coems from and that it NEEDS to be present before any change can happen macroevolutionwise- His paper is about complex specified informaiton, and he admits that a source for metainfo HAS to exist before hand, but has NO explanation for how it can be transfered to species IF it exists in nature- You are misrepresentign his conclusions and admissions. There is no evidence to show metainfo can exist independently in, and be be accumulated through natural lateral transference- nor is there any evidence it can be built up in a stepwise fashion.

There are several rebuttals to Demski’s paper already, and contrary to your earlier claim, more andm ore sicentists are not takign a look at his claims because they understand that metainfo (or CSI as Demski lieks to calll it- however, his CSI is far too shallow, and exists at a much lower level than true metainfo- and this only further goes to hte problem of completed metainfo) must exist before hand


108 posted on 01/27/2009 11:27:29 AM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop
You are being disingenious here with htis statement- Bill Demski ADMITS that he doesn’t know where the informaiton coems from and that it NEEDS to be present before any change...

I'm merely reporting what Dembski said on his website, Uncommon Descent. A very recent blog.

114 posted on 01/27/2009 11:34:06 AM PST by js1138
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You are being disingenious here with htis statement- Bill Demski ADMITS that he doesn’t know where the informaiton coems from

In evolutionary search, a large number offspring is often generated, and the more fit offspring are selected for the next generation. When some offspring are correctly announced as more fit than others, external knowledge is being applied to the search giving rise to active information. As with the child’s game of finding a hidden object, we are being told with respect to the solution whether we are getting ”colder” or ”warmer” to the target.

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128 posted on 01/27/2009 11:51:31 AM PST by js1138
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