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I've never heard Scripture called "comic relief" before. That is a new one on me. But, I do agree we cannot achieve what is defined as love, and I also agree that we are called to strive for that perfection, as we are called to emulate Christ. We can never perfectly imitate Him, but our objective is to come as close as possible. Again, you claimed it was impossible for man to conceive of God - if we cannot conceive of Him, we cannot emulate Him, and thus His charge to us (love Him) is impossible. You're moving the target.

I don't understand where you're whole "denomination" point enters the conversation - ours began regarding "doctrine," and your claim that God doesn't care about doctrine and that terrible things have occurred in the name of doctrine. I countered with examples of "doctrine" which go counter to Revelation (specifically, against the 10 Commandments and the words of Christ), and you really never answered the argument. So, again, I ask you - is Joseph Smith, founder of the Church of Latter-day Saints, a prophet of God? An answer to the question is promulgating "doctrine" - granted, I believe the correct answer is doctrine directly revealed to us via Scripture, but it is doctrine nonetheless.

[ Again, you claimed it was impossible for man to conceive of God - if we cannot conceive of Him, we cannot emulate Him, and thus His charge to us (love Him) is impossible. You're moving the target. ]

What is your conception of a being(God) that can re-model the earth, and create universes, galaxy and solar systems?.. Invent and create other creatures?.. What is he/it?.. Who is he/it?... My thought is whatever conception "you"(or I) have/has misses the mark.. of what we are dealing with..(ICor 2;9)

[ So, again, I ask you - is Joseph Smith, founder of the Church of Latter-day Saints, a prophet of God? An answer to the question is promulgating "doctrine" - granted, I believe the correct answer is doctrine directly revealed to us via Scripture, but it is doctrine nonetheless. ]

There are lots of Gods on this planet.. People have been inventing them for Mullen.. That does not occlude the fact their is a God.. Lots of doctrines about "who and what" people think God(s) are.. even judeo-christians GODS..

People get lots if "ideas" and make doctrines.. codify them and form denominations of followers(sheep pens).. (John ch10).. WHO then, is correct/accurate?.. If any are?..

That "IS" why we need the Holy Spirit.. and WHY? Jesus left the Holy Spirit in charge of this planet.. Because people get strange ideas and "conceive" of strange rites and ceremony's(sacraments).. and develop doctrines.. The Jews did/and do as christians did/and do.. People are not too smart as I see it.. Thats WHY? Jesus did not forbid denominations even though he no doubt KNEW they would be some(denominations).. (being GOD).. People gather together in sheep pens as holding "tanks".. UNTIL they can be called out of them.. IF they will come.. (as John ch 10 intones)..

Sheep pens are a good place for christians, Jews, and other God seekers(goat pens) to be(Hindu, bud-dist etc.).. I think "the plan" is beautiful.. and very efficient.. People sorting themselves into pens.. The proper pens for them.. God is very smart..