[thefrankbaum]

Yes, and many others.. and their variations..
Presence of the Holy Spirit trumps ceremony and sacrament..

If you can't see the justification for Baptism, we cannot continue this conversation. You apparently recognize no authority but your own.

[hosepipe]

[ If you can't see the justification for Baptism, we cannot continue this conversation. ]

So be it, hopefully you are not afraid of this conversation.. Are you a baptist?...