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To: ReneeLynn
Having faith requires study of ones faith. Especially Christianity. This is not obsession.

You brought up the word 'obsession'. I was merely turning the mirror back at you to show that if you define obsession as putting up websites, people of religious faiths do it far more often than people who espouse no religious faith.

I agree that study is important. Being as people in every part of the world grow up immersed in some sort of religious tradition that is particular to the dominant faiths that operate in their parts of the world, there are often very, very many sources of information on those faiths. What if someone is looking for information on disbelief? What if they are wondering if the organized religions surrounding them are false? Surely Christians put up websites to attract people from a Mormon culture, or even Jewish and Islamic traditions. Why shouldn't people who think it's all a crock be able to make their reasoning available to someone seeking answers?

Atheists don’t believe in God. But they organize like a religion. They concentrate on other people’s faith as if they’re threatened somewhow by that faith.

Actually, most websites and books that are published are not done so as part of any single organization. It just looks monolithic to you. Yes, they read each other's books, but beyond that, there is not much in the way of formal organization.

There have been a few atheist organizations, Madelyn Murray O'Hair founded American Atheists as a civil rights organization dedicated to raising awareness of and lobbying for the rights of people who do not share the dominant belief system of this country. There is an American tradition of separation of church and state, and while there are multiple arguments about where and when it became part of our traditions, the fact is, most people agree with it to some extent. There have clearly been cases where it is violated (go live in Utah if you want to know what I'm talking about) that are invisible to people of faith.

What’s the point of a website that has to reinforce a belief that God is imaginary? Sounds like some people need to convince themselves and organize together their beliefs

It's the same as the websites promoting a particular religious faith. Not every Methodist knows 100% about being a Methodist, therefore the Methodist church puts out books and websites about what Methodists believe, so that people who seek to identify with that denomination can more closely match their actions and thoughts to that line of religious thought. Again, if someone in a deeply religious culture wants to explore their doubts about the predominant religions that they are surrounded with, it is often useful to explore the thought processes that others have taken to get to their unbelief.

Atheism is just a religion of the Godless, obsessed with attacking other religions in the belief that they are the superior thinkers.

I understand that you feel "attacked". And it is easy to see that everyone who espouses nonbelief looks like some giant organization of people who are ganging up on you. Such is the nature of the persecution complex of religious people.

If you really want to see attacks, go to the anti-Mormon websites that some Christians have put up, I became familiar with them this last year while Mitt Romney was running for President. We might have seen him inaugurated today instead of a phony Christian if evangelical Christians had not been so very afraid of his Mormon religion.

157 posted on 01/20/2009 7:29:35 AM PST by hunter112 (We seem to be on an excrement river in a Native American watercraft without a propulsion device.)
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To: hunter112

I do not feel ‘attacked’. Athiests don’t threaten me at all. I feel sorry for them.

You’re losing me when you mention seperation of Church and state. Uh, uh, uh. To protect the Church from government interference is freedom of religion, not seperation. Not to keep religion out of the public square.

But look, atheist guy, I don’t recall ever saying that athiests couldn’t have websites. Let them website it up. I merely pointed out that the site is with a questionable host and the owners wish to remain anonymous. Although I don’t see the logic in making a study of disbelief. If I believe something does not exist, why do I want to waste my time proving it to myself or others? If I ‘really’ didn’t believe in it’s existance I would just go on with my life and not give it another thought.

And once-upon-a-time the Greek and Roman Gods were very real to people. They may be Mythology and literature to us now, but they weren’t always. Someone believed in them. I’m saying the creator of false Gods is Satan and always has been.


160 posted on 01/20/2009 8:10:43 AM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism, it's the new black.)
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