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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Your questions leave me baffled. How can there be more than one Jesus Christ? There isn’t. He is the Jesus Christ the Bible speaks of, and there are no others. Period.

I have no clue where you got your ideas on “Mormonism,” but wherever it was, it is totally skewed. There is only one God. He has only ONE Begotten Son, who is Jesus Christ, the Savior of the world.

OK. I can see in all your posts that you are concerned with “Mormonism.” There really is no such thing. We don’t worship Mormon. We worship God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ. We believe in the Holy Ghost.

“Mormons” belong to the Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints. (Jesus Christ being the operative phrase!)

I believe that the Bible is Scripture; that, as a logical-thinking person, there are many “Scriptures” that have not been given validity, but are still true, and that there are many Scriptures yet to come, which are also true.

Remember that there are twelve Tribes of Israel and each of them has a record of their history, which is what the Bible is: An historical record, containing prophecies as well as historical and greographical information that is for the benefit of all the world, not just a select few. Each Tribe has it’s OWN history, written down, to be revealed at a later time. It stands to reason that if one Tribe (The Tribe of Judah) has a written history, the other Tribes will also have a written history.

And if the Dead Sea Scrolls are written in Hebrew, what of it? Isn’t that what the Bible (and therefore the Torah) are written in? Yet, you believe the Bible. Do you believe the Old Testament as well as the New?

Who is to say which is accurate? How many translations must be made and “verified” before we can “believe” them?

Unitarianism has nothing to offer me. I’ve studied religions searching for the truth, and attended many different services. None could answer my questions with logic.

I believe that you are truly curious, and because of that, I’ve tried not to be argumentative. If you have more questions, please feel free to ask them!


170 posted on 12/26/2008 6:37:44 PM PST by Monkey Face (Humpty Dumpty was pushed.)
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To: Monkey Face; Zakeet

>>>Your questions leave me baffled. How can there be more than one Jesus Christ? There isn’t. He is the Jesus Christ the Bible speaks of, and there are no others. Period.

Oh, there is just one REAL Jesus Christ. There are countless
false Christs, as I posted earlier. Rev. Sun Myung Moon,
for instance claimed he was Christ. Clearly, he couldn’t be
the REAL Christ, right?? Consequently, he must be a false
Christ. Same with any cult or heresy - mormonism is one of
those.

>>>OK. I can see in all your posts that you are concerned with “Mormonism.” There really is no such thing. We don’t worship Mormon. We worship God the Father and His Son, Jesus Christ. We believe in the Holy Ghost.

My posts are focused on mormonism - the teachings of the
LDS. I can only wish there was no such thing. The God
mormonism worships is not the God identified in the Bible.
Nor is the Christ. Nor is the Holy Spirit. Individual
mormons can certainly come to know the REAL Christ - though
the teachings of the LDS obscure Him.

>>>“Mormons” belong to the Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter-day Saints. (Jesus Christ being the operative phrase!)

yes, but the issue is, which Christ? The answer is not
the One the Bible teaches.

>>>Remember that there are twelve Tribes of Israel and each of them has a record of their history, which is what the Bible is: An historical record, containing prophecies as well as historical and greographical information that is for the benefit of all the world, not just a select few. Each Tribe has it’s OWN history, written down, to be revealed at a later time. It stands to reason that if one Tribe (The Tribe of Judah) has a written history, the other Tribes will also have a written history.

No. The Hebrew Scriptures follow the Tribe of Judah because
the promised Messiah came from the lineage of Judah only.
No where in the Bible (that I know of) does it say every tribe
of Israel has its own written history that is to be revealed
in the future. That is simply part of the falsehood of
mormonism. If you can point me to such a passage in the
OT or NT, I’d appreciate your effort.

>>>Do you believe the Old Testament as well as the New?

Of course, I’m a Christian.

>>>Unitarianism has nothing to offer me. I’ve studied religions searching for the truth, and attended many different services. None could answer my questions with logic.

Unitarianism has a LOT in common with mormonism. Mormonism
itself is not logical. It is a belief system outside
logic.

>>>I believe that you are truly curious, and because of that, I’ve tried not to be argumentative. If you have more questions, please feel free to ask them!

Oh, I’m very curious. I find mormonism very curious indeed!
In fact, I’ve studied many cults, in addition to studying
the Scriptures for many years. As a complement, I believe
mormonism is the ultimate heresy/cult - the highest form
of the art.

As to mormons themselves, I like them and wish for them
to know the One True God and His Son Jesus Christ.

best,
ampu


171 posted on 12/26/2008 6:54:11 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ("I've got a bracelet too, Jim")
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To: Monkey Face
Ok, I am normally content to sit on the sidelines now in all this (ok I dip in some) seeing as my questions on the LDS were answered in these very forums. But you just made a statement that seems to contradict what I learned.

You say there is only one God, he has only one begotten son. We know from the Bible Jesus is the Lord. You have also referenced the Holy Spirit

So is that a trinitarian slip?

As in all things there is reason for my query.

181 posted on 12/26/2008 9:39:20 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Stupidity has an expiration date 1-2-2013 *(Thanks Nana))
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To: Monkey Face; aMorePerfectUnion
Your questions leave me baffled. How can there be more than one Jesus Christ? There isn’t. He is the Jesus Christ the Bible speaks of, and there are no others. Period.

Wow! (Did Jesus and the apostle Paul get your "Period" bulletin correcting them?)

Jesus: Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many." (Matthew 24:4-5)

Apostle Paul: For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the one you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted... (2 Cor. 11:4)

I have no clue where you got your ideas on “Mormonism,” but wherever it was, it is totally skewed. There is only one God.

Hmm...

Why didn't the LDS "apostle" McConkie...
...who had the outright audacity to title his LDS "prophet"-approved book, "Mormon Doctrine"...
...not the first version...but subsequent versions...
...get your bulletin about this before he wrote his book or revisions thereof????

How many (true) gods are worshiped according to their LDS apostle's "Mormon Doctrine" 1966 book? (Three according to the Mormon definition of Heavenly Father and Jesus and the Holy Ghost being three separate gods): "Three separate personages--the Father, Son and Holy Ghost--comprise the Godhead...To us, speaking in the proper finite sense, these three are the only gods we worship." (Mormon Doctrine, pp. 567-577, 1966 edition)

Oh, wait a minute. (I should have kept reading). McConkie, on p. 848, only emphasizes worshiping two gods: "The Father and the Son are the objects of all true worship....No one can worship the Father without also worshiping the Son....It is proper to worship the Father, in the name of the Son, and also to worship the Son" (McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, p. 848).

239 posted on 12/27/2008 12:19:08 PM PST by Colofornian
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