Posted on 12/23/2008 8:18:09 AM PST by Between the Lines
I think Warren has his share of critics from the conservative front too. I just can’t figure out why he would compromise his principles to do this gig for Obama.
Obama needs to hear the “NOS.”
praying for someone to do the right thing does not compromise priciples
“Warren’s support for global warming...”
Oh boy, he’s a liberal. Anyone that believes in that load of BS really needs help....but I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt on that.
Anyway, we did the “Purpose Driven Life” with our youth group and from what I remember there were a lot of Biblical truths and accurate to God’s word.
We’ll see what happens. God will reveal his true plans and if Rick is doing something “not Biblical”, God will reveal it!
Remember, Jesus said “the sick need a doctor, not the well...”
Jesus was also criticized for hanging around lepers, gentiles, children, tax payers, etc. So i will also give rick the benefit of the doubt when he goes to these Muslin conventions... we’ll see!
As a Christian, I struggle with how to deliver compassion and love to people in such a manner that the Gospel message is still first and never compromised. In my opinion, it is a very difficult thing to do. I try to look at the model of love that Jesus provides in the Scriptures, but I know that I fall way, way short of His ideal no matter my best efforts.
I truly don’t know Rick Warren’s heart, though I think his willingness to give 90% of his income is a telling sign that he does love people. I’ll admit that I get a little concerned, at times, about his passion for making sure the Gospel is above all, even at the expense of his personal popularity, but I pray that is just my misgivings, not a true indictment.
I mean to say that I get a little concerned that he may not be placing the Gospel message above all else.
Our church at time (a few years ago) did the Purpose Driven Life stuff too. I found it to be pretty theologically shallow. Not impressed with Rick Warren.
In any case, he should have told nobama, “No”.
Some pastors learn how to make their churches purpose-driven through training workshops. Speakers at Church Transitions Inc., a Waxhaw, N.C., nonprofit that works closely with Mr. Warren's church, stress that the transition will be rough. At a seminar outside of Austin, Texas, in April, the Revs. Roddy Clyde and Glen Sartain advised 80 audience members to trust very few people with their plans. “All the forces of hell are going to come at you when you wake up that church,” said Mr. Sartain, who has taught the material at Mr. Warren's Saddleback Church.
During a session titled “Dealing with Opposition,” Mr. Clyde recommended that the pastor speak to critical members, then help them leave if they don't stop objecting. Then when those congregants join a new church, Mr. Clyde instructed, pastors should call their new minister and suggest that the congregants be barred from any leadership role.
“There are moments when you've got to play hardball,” said the Rev. Dan Southerland, Church Transitions’ president, in an interview. “You cannot transition a church...and placate every whiny Christian along the way.”
Mr. Warren acknowledges that splits occur in congregations that adopt his ideas...
Rick Warren is to Evangelical Christianity what John McCain is to Conservative Republicanism.
Evidently you are not aware of Obama’s wishes to kill the unborn.......that’s not the right thing in anyone’s judgment.
Obama will have to meet his maker someday, and so will Warren.
Great cartoon. LOL!
Well said. Thanks.
Is Warren under any religous authority? Or is he out there on his own? In other words, is their a bishop or similar clerical body to which he is aligned?
I much as I am unpleased that Obama is going to be the next President....he IS going to be the next President. I think it is good that a Evangelical Pastor will be giving the inaugural invocation. We as followers of Christ need to be praying for our country and leaders even more with where we are headed. I hope Warren makes some very bold decrees in the name of Christ over this President and nation.
i am a solid pro lifer. but to blame warren for the sins of obama cuz he prays with him i think is a little crazy in my humble opinion
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