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To: Stourme
Cult comeback #1....Blame the victim.

...And yes, actually, it was this quote where Joseph Smith claimed to be greater than Jesus Christ that got to me. I was determined to prove someone wrong here on Free Republic during the "Romney Debates"...I checked it out myself IN A FAITHFUL ATTEMPT TO DEFEND THE CHURCH against what I thought to be easily provable slander.

"…I have more to boast of than ever any man had. I am the only man that has ever been able to keep a whole church together since the days of Adam. A large majority of the whole have stood by me. Neither Paul, John, Peter, nor Jesus ever did it. I boast that no man ever did such a work as I. The followers of Jesus ran away from Him; but the Latter-day Saints never ran away from me yet...When they can get rid of me, the devil will also go." (History of the Church, Vol. 6, p. 408, 409) - Joseph Smith, during his lying polygamy denial sermon

The problem with the church is the church itself, not MY REFUSAL TO PAY, PRAY AND OBEY !!

".... Lucifer wins a great victory when he can get members of the Church to speak against their leaders and to 'do their own thinking.'...When our leaders speak, the thinking has been done. When they propose a plan — it is God's plan. When they point the way, there is no other which is safe. When they give direction, it should mark the end of controversy." (Improvement Era, June 1945, p. 354)

But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

For by thy words thou shalt be justified and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. (Matthew 12:36-37)

Matthew 7:15-16, Jesus Christ: Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

I dare you to check it out for yourself, I DARE YOU !

50 posted on 12/18/2008 12:31:44 PM PST by SENTINEL (SGT USMC COMBAT VET.)
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To: SENTINEL
Matthew 7:15-16, Jesus Christ: Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

I dare you to check it out for yourself, I DARE YOU !

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Before addressing the issue of Br. Joseph being a “false prophet”, do you believe this verse says there will be NO prophets?

51 posted on 12/18/2008 12:51:47 PM PST by fproy2222
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