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To: kosta50; Kolokotronis

Et people need is less talking between church dignitaries and more talk on common level.

What I mean is that 99,9% of Christians are cueless about ecumenism.
In Blkans especialy.
Wee need meetings, open arguments, TV shows, even talkshows where we, as common people and Orthodox believers can talk to Catholic priests, representatives from vatican nad our own Catholic prirests from Serbia.

1. People must be ensured that Vatican is not some foreighn mystical power that wants to convers Orthodox
2. We need someone to explain to the Serbs that Vatican is no longer supporting anti-Serb and Anti-Russian actions (relations are getting better, Vatican supports Serbia over Kosovo and that one goes well as relations in general)

talks between cardinals and Patriarcha are useless.

If people are having open disscussions about joining EU or some stupid laws, we need to see and TALK to Catholics

You see for us Serbs (as you know) when you ask a common Serb abouth Vatican- his brain goes: Vatican-Croatia-Genocide- WWII.
But we need a Catholic priests, even common Catholic believers from OTHER countries, Hungary, Mexico, Brazil tec.

DIALOGUE must be lowered down to ordinary people.

My opinion anyway....


135 posted on 12/11/2008 2:56:34 PM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo is Serbian Jerusalem. No Serbia without Kosovo.)
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To: kronos77; Kolokotronis
Since you seem intelligent and worldly, you must know then that the Serbs have enough problems with their "progressive" vladikas (bishops) to worry about what the Catholics think.

The Serbian Church is in deep trouble with internal divisions and is infected with the same disease as the rest of the Serbian society—trying to be something they are not. Do they not know that there is nothing worse than an imitation, except a bad imitation?

Can you imagine how stupid it would look if Americans tried to imitate Mexicans? Or Mexicans Americans? Or Greeks Swedes? Or Hungarians Spaniards? Then you can imagine what it looks like when Serbs try to be anything other than Serbs.

How can a people know more about others if they know nothing abut themselves? If you think the Vatican brings back a knee-jerk reaction to Croatia, Ustasha, WWII, the same ignorant knee-jerk reaction exists with the Croatian alphabet being peddled as "Serbian Latin."

I read Serbian media and I can tell you the Serbs are illiterate even though they claim to have perfectly [sic] phonetic alphabet. Serbs would be better off being preoccupied with learning how to read and write their own language, choose one alphabet (preferably one that connects them to their otherwise rich culture), decide on spelling rules, and grammar, before they preoccupy themselves with worldly matters.

Why, reading Serbian newspapers is like reading half distorted English half Serbian. If the paper has to choose between a maloletnik or a teenager, they will pick the latter (spelled tinejdzer!), as long as it's foreign (anything foreing is better, right?). That's really being Serbian!

Your vladika Gligoriye from Trebinye is a nut. He and a handful of younger bishops is pushing for liturgical reforms and the saddest thing is that he is supported by the secular politicians (probably people like that traitor s.o.b. Chedo Yovanovich and the people gathered around the Quisling B92 "progressives").

It's all part of deconstructing Serbia my friend, and promises of EU are part of it. So, if I were you (meaning Serbs in Serbia), I would take a long and hard look who you are first, decide who want to be and then worry about who others are. My friendly, and brotherly advice.

145 posted on 12/11/2008 4:12:23 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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