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To: Alex Murphy
It's not just the 'inactive' Catholics-- How long do you think the Republican party can trot out the abortion issue every 4 years while doing nothing effective about it?

Something 'effective' means a articulating a way to rein in the courts, possibly threatening the SOB's with arrest for abuse of power and misappropriation of funds when they legislate from the bench.

Any "pro-life" candidate who doesn't have a plan to deal with the courts is a sham and a fraud, which I think a lot of people have finally figured out.

Someone will have to be willing to call their bluff regarding Judicial Supremacy or not. And if not, then kiss goodbye to the Republic.

57 posted on 11/06/2008 7:06:54 AM PST by pierrem15 (Charles Martel: past and future of France)
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To: pierrem15

George W. Bush has been staunch in his pro-life support. He banned federal tax dollars being used for embryonic stem cell research. He tried hard to save Terri Schiavo along with other politicians though that turned out tragic. He has always spoken on the sanctity of life. More so than any Catholic politician I can think of.


68 posted on 11/06/2008 7:14:18 AM PST by NoKoolAidforMe ("Victory at all costs...for without true victory, there is no survival." Winston Churchill)
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To: pierrem15

You make a good point. I had a discussion with younger family members who were on the fence about voting for McCain or Obama. Their response to my pro-life argument was that abortion would be legal in four years regardless of whether Obama or McCain was president. My argument about possibly moving the Supreme Court to the right with a McCain win fell on deaf ears.

They have a point. The Republican party has had ending abortion as a plank in it’s platform for decades, yet it’s no closer to being outlawed than it ever was. I think that’s part of the reason why the pro-life argument doesn’t resonate anymore with a lot of people, especially young people. They see lotsa talk before every election, but little action afterwards.


70 posted on 11/06/2008 7:16:45 AM PST by LadyNavyVet (Be a monthly donor.)
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To: pierrem15
It's not just the 'inactive' Catholics-- How long do you think the Republican party can trot out the abortion issue every 4 years while doing nothing effective about it?

Here, here! It's high time we stopped being "enablers" for an RNC completely out of touch with its traditional base. By settling for lip-service against abortion, on the grounds that that's better than just greasing the skids to victory for openly pro-death Democrats, we encourage them to trot out mediocre candidates for all Federal offices year after year. I might vote Republican in more local races, but I have not voted Republican for president since 1992. I have always voted the man who best represents a mindset based on sound constitutionally "constructionist" principles.

Granted, I live in Massachusetts, so this is "easy," since the Republicans have absolutely no chance here anyway. But the concept has to start spreading elsewhere. The Republicans either need to be "forced" back to their base, or abandoned in favor of a more viable conservative movement. They are not the answer any more. They don't have what it takes, they don't show any signs they will in the future, and they have given us nothing but lip-service to the "pro-life issues" and backpedaling to everything else in the socialist agenda of the Democrats!

That conservatives were forced yet again to vote for the "lesser of two evils," and forced to publicly pretend he was an almost ideal candidate, is disgusting. That we conservative Christians were constrained to implore Heaven itself for McCain's victory is more than disgusting, and shows God Himself just how low we have sunk. I still hope for His mercy to descend on this country, but I await His judgment on it instead as the more likely occurence.

Miserere nobis, Domine. Sed fiat voluntas tua.

108 posted on 11/06/2008 8:34:03 AM PST by magisterium
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