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To: Philo-Junius; wideawake; Alex Murphy
Non-literalism is the only interpretation of Genesis 1-11 which is at all reconciliable with the fundamentals of archaeology and geology.

Ahem--that's if you assume uniformitarianism, that from the very first instant of existence all natural laws and all physical realities have operated exactly as they do now (the gestation period has always been nine months, no one has ever lived nine hundred years, etc.). Then in the name of scientific uniformitarianism I demand that you admit that dead people can't come back to life, water doesn't change into wine, and transubstantiation simply cannot take place. You have absolutely no excuse other than the most bald-faced hypocrisy (or else a knee-jerk prejudice against "those Bible-thumpers") in order to maintain this inconsistency.

It’s not that most Catholics are scientists, but most of them did attend at elementary schools with conventional science classes.

So? Fundamentalist Protestants attended the same classes but simply don't assume uniformitarianism. Do you actually not realize this?

158 posted on 11/06/2008 3:19:20 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vehe'min beHaShem; vayachsheveha lo tzedaqah.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Assuming that God did not manufacture the universe to only LOOK 14 billion years old is not the same as excluding the miraculous in all areas covered by the Bible.


161 posted on 11/06/2008 3:56:51 PM PST by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Ahem--that's if you assume uniformitarianism, that from the very first instant of existence all natural laws and all physical realities have operated exactly as they do now (the gestation period has always been nine months, no one has ever lived nine hundred years, etc.). Then in the name of scientific uniformitarianism I demand that you admit that dead people can't come back to life, water doesn't change into wine, and transubstantiation simply cannot take place. You have absolutely no excuse other than the most bald-faced hypocrisy (or else a knee-jerk prejudice against "those Bible-thumpers") in order to maintain this inconsistency.

Let me get this straight. If we believe that the laws of nature and physics have remained the same since the time of creation, we are being "inconsistent"?

Miracles are miracles exactly because they are incidents where the Divine suspends normal physical laws.

I see no Biblical reason to assume that time and space behaved differently thousands of years ago. That would seem to make scientific revelation a game of "gotcha."

God made the world and saw that it was good. I don't think he hid fossils of dinosaurs and changed the way carbon behaves just so He could damn people who looked to His Creation for clues about Him.

162 posted on 11/06/2008 3:58:10 PM PST by SoothingDave
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