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To: wideawake

Looking further in the Catholic Encyclopedia on John XII as regards:

“Did John XII sleep with his own mother? No.”

“On November 6 a synod composed of fifty Italian and German bishops was convened in St. Peter’s; John was accused of sacrilege, simony, perjury, murder, adultery, and incest, and was summoned in writing to defend himself. Refusing to recognize the synod, John pronounced sentence of excommunication (ferendae sententiae) against all participators in the assembly, should they elect in his stead another pope.”

No, his mother isn’t mentioned but the incest charge is just one of many. And by a synod not anti-Catholic bigots.

Hmmm.....As they say, two out of three IS bad, but I’ll give you John 23, unless he lived a very long time.


72 posted on 10/15/2008 1:24:01 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change
Your quotation from the Catholic Encyclopedia on John XII mentions accusations.
78 posted on 10/15/2008 1:46:44 PM PDT by Petronski (Please pray for the success of McCain and Palin. Every day, whenever you pray.)
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To: count-your-change
On November 6 a synod composed of fifty Italian and German bishops was convened in St. Peter’s; John was accused of sacrilege, simony, perjury, murder, adultery, and incest, and was summoned in writing to defend himself.

The background: John XII was a Frenchman, a descendant of Charlemagne no less, and despised by the Italian and German episcopates because of his political sympathy for the King of France. Who organized this "synod" of Germans and Italians? Why the German emperor, Otto I - John XII's sworn enemy. Why was it a "synod of fifty" when there were several hundred Italian bishops? Because most of the Italian bishops, whether they were pro-French or not, refused to have anything to do with the Emperor's show trial/kangaroo court.

No, his mother isn’t mentioned but the incest charge is just one of many. And by a synod not anti-Catholic bigots.

So it isn't about facts, but about the severity of the charges?

This "synod" was no different than the "investigative committee" put together by the Alaskan state Democratic caucus to "investigate" Sarah Palin.

It was pure politics designed to force John XII from the papal seat so he could be replaced with one of the Emperor's cronies.

As they say, two out of three IS bad, but I’ll give you John 23

No, I was right about all three. There is zero evidence that John XII committed maternal incest. There was no Pope John XXIII in the 14th century. And Gregory VII did not write what he was alleged to have written.

81 posted on 10/15/2008 1:56:13 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who like to be called Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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