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To: Marysecretary
we digress when you insist baptism is necessary for salvation

He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned. (Mark 16:16)

baptism being of the [water] form, now saveth you also (1 Peter 3:21)

infant baptism as well.

Yes.

she was baptized, and her household (Acts 16:15)

himself was baptized, and all his house (Acts 16:33)

Good works come after we are saved

by works a man is justified; and not by faith only (James 2:24)

We take [the Eucharist]

You don't.

262 posted on 08/13/2008 2:54:06 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex; vladimir998

Yeah,umm, I dropped out of this “club” when I was old enough to see the ‘sheep’ starving in the pews and wondering..is that all there is? you can build it however you want it...but you will ultimately be held accountable for your actions.


265 posted on 08/13/2008 3:01:40 PM PDT by saltnlemons (Shell's Dad!)
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To: annalex

Yes, BELIEVE and be baptized. Baptism is a commandment but it is done AFTER we come to faith. If you depend only on works, you will be lost. You come to faith and then you do the works God has called you to do. If you are only depending on your works for salvation, well, you aren’t going to make it very far. The eucharist doesn’t save you either. We take it in remembrance of Him and we do not believe it is the actual blood and body of our dear Lord. It is a spiritual remembrance, not a physical one. Others have explained this so much better than I can.


287 posted on 08/13/2008 5:06:43 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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