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To: LearnsFromMistakes

Matter of fact, Jesus explains Himself right in John 3:5, “Jesus answered: Amen, amen I say to thee, unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.” Both John 3 and John 6 have this in common: a startling statement is meant by Jesus, the unbeliever asks to clarify, and Jesus does. In John 3 He explains that the second birth is baptism, in John 6 that His flesh is “food indeed”. Further, in both cases Jesus insists on the sacramental character of baptism and of the Eucharist: they are what they signify, water gives a rebirth and His flesh quickens the spirit. In neither John 3 or John 6 Jesus says “eh, I only meant it symbolically”.


185 posted on 08/13/2008 10:46:59 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex
In neither John 3 or John 6 Jesus says “eh, I only meant it symbolically”.

I guess I don't know how to respond to that.

So, 'born again' = 'baptism' -- no symbolism involved...

I was hoping that Matt 19:21 was using symbolism...

189 posted on 08/13/2008 11:34:31 AM PDT by LearnsFromMistakes
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