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To: annalex
“Not directly, although the Apostles were the proto-Church. However, the comission to forgive sins is given to the Apostles.”

John 20 doesn't speak of any church even indirectly.

John 20 doesn't teach that anyone was a “proto-church.” Again, that is isogesis from your teachings and traditions.

And NO, not “all of us” are children of God. The “New Birth,” “Regeneration” is necessary to become a child of God. If “we all are” children of God, then nothing in the Bible means anything at all. There is a great Biblical distinction between those who are children of God and those who are not. And there are children of DARKNESS. And there are children of the DEVIL. NO, not “all” are children of God.

844 posted on 08/05/2008 8:32:07 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: John Leland 1789
John 20 doesn't speak of any church even indirectly. The Apostles are the proto-Church because when Christ peaks of building His Church he vests the power to "bind and loose", that is, legislate, on Peter in the presence of that Apostles and then He vests specifically the legislative power to the entire Apostolic college (Matthew 16 and 18). The comission to evangelize and to forgive sins is likewise given to the Apostles.

However, whatever you belief about the nature of the Church, what makes you think you are not in need of a confession and absolution?

not “all of us” are children of God.

Again, whatever your beliefs are, what makes you think you are not in need of a confession of sins?

859 posted on 08/06/2008 1:19:45 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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