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To: John Leland 1789

Why? The Church is there not merely to baptize but also to teach, forgive sins, bring the Eucharist and save souls.


769 posted on 08/04/2008 12:10:10 PM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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To: annalex

Well, since:

1. I was Baptiszed in to Christ (1 Corinthians 12:13; Col. 2:11, 12; Ephesians 4:5) by the Holy Spirit when I first trusted in Christ (also Ephesians 1:13, sealed in Christ);
2. All my sins were paid for, propitiated at the Cross with one sufficient sacrifice forever (Hebrews chapters 9 and 10; etc.)
3. My soul is already permenantly saved and I have the witness of the Holy Ghost concerning that (Romans 8:16; 1 John 5:10; etc. . . . .

. . . if the purposes of (whatever) church (you are referring to) are as you state, then, all of those functions having already been finished, you have convinced me that I have no need of it.


787 posted on 08/04/2008 8:11:46 PM PDT by John Leland 1789
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To: annalex
“Why? The Church is there not merely to baptize but also to teach, forgive sins, bring the Eucharist and save souls.” [emphasis mine]
God alone can forgive sins.

Even the Pharisees knew that.

Unless a sinner repents before God, they are unforgiven.

No organization can stand between God and a repentant sinner, nor can any organization or church claim exclusivity over forgiveness of sins.

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

John 14:6

People and churches are only witnesses.

God alone through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the Cross saves souls from hell.


788 posted on 08/04/2008 11:22:14 PM PDT by Fichori (Obama's "Change we can believe in" means changing everything you love about America. For the worse.)
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To: annalex

The church has no power to save. Only God has that power and privilege.


1,048 posted on 08/10/2008 1:32:04 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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