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To: Truth Defender
I'll try to find out and get back to you.

Thank you. If it's well established it is just one more thing I can present to RC's that are seeking the Lord. My wife has an Uncle who is RC and attends mass pretty regularly. We talk on occasion, but he isn't ready to open up a Bible and really get into things.

BTW, I've really enjoyed the detail in your posts and references. The references give me the opportunity later to look at the books on line, or buy them for myself. One book concerning the failed theory of apostolic succession I found very strong was "From Apostles to Bishops" by Francis Sullivan.

436 posted on 08/02/2008 9:30:25 AM PDT by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: wmfights
Just getting back to you on that reference to the Pope saying, "I am God on the earth" to his audience in the vatican throne room.

Here it is in total:
"On the 30th of April, 1922, in the Vatican Throne Room, a throng of Cardinals, Bishops, Priests, and Nuns, boys and girls, who all fell on their knees, were addressed fromthe Throne by Pope Pius XI., who, in a haughty tone, said: 'You know that I am the Holy Father, the representative of God on the earth, the Vicar of Christ, which means that I am God on the earth.'" (Quoted from "The Bulwark", October, 1922, reporting on the speach which was heard by those attending, including some reporters.)

I have many more quotes made by various popes over the years that are very pointed and self-condemning. Perhaps I should post them? I am sure they will not be received very well by the RC's on board :-)

442 posted on 08/02/2008 10:21:44 AM PDT by Truth Defender (History teaches, if we but listen to it; but no one really listens!)
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