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To: annalex; redgolum; NYer; roamer_1; Jaded; sandyeggo; Gamecock; Quix
The Crusades — excluding the horrendous sack of Constantinople and the entire debacle of the 4th one — were simply a noble war of liberation of the Holy Land [...]

Yes... The Albigensian Crusade, The Children's Crusade, The Wendish Crusade, the Prussian Crusade, The Fresian (Stedingers) Crusade, the Russian Crusades, the Argonese Crusade, the Hussite Crusade, and the Swedish Crusades... All noble wars of liberation of the Holy Land (/sarc)

One might question the unnecessary brutality of the wars of Reformation, but then one should begin by questioning the so-called reformation itself.

I would suggest the root of the problem was the one still involved with the killing of the Waldensians at the time, as they had been for centuries, and the selling of indulgences... The brutality was already long underway. The treatment of the Protestants was true to form.

The Holy Inquisition in its full vigor is something modernity sorely lacks [...]

I need only leave that opinion to the imagination of the reader.

When substantive arguments are lacking, attempts to defame the winning side often ensue. It is no big deal.

Burned at the stake, flayed alive, tongue cut out, death in prison, land and home confiscated... No big deal.

416 posted on 08/01/2008 10:59:31 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: roamer_1

Thanks.

Well put as usual.


417 posted on 08/01/2008 11:25:46 PM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: roamer_1; annalex; redgolum; NYer; Jaded; sandyeggo; Gamecock; Quix
A: The Holy Inquisition in its full vigor is something modernity sorely lacks [...]

RO: I need only leave that opinion to the imagination of the reader.

It is nice to see RC's express their true sentiments. A perfect illustration of why the world is a better place without the RCC being a part of the state and having it's power behind it.

438 posted on 08/02/2008 9:42:13 AM PDT by wmfights (Believe - THE GOSPEL - and be saved)
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To: roamer_1; redgolum; NYer; Jaded; sandyeggo; Gamecock; Quix

Some wars against heretics were, of course, not about the Holy Land at all, and some, especially against the Orthodox, were a mistake to wage. However, the Cathars, for example, were a horrendous heresy that deserved to be put down.

I also don’t think that the brutality of war really subsided in modernity, rather the opposite. In terms of jurisprudence, there has been some progress and the Holy Inquisition played a positive role in giving the accused rights and insisting on due process. As a Catholic I would welcome a robust Papal Inquisiton into the affairs of the Catholic Education, which continues to be a scandal even after the sex abuse scandal blew over.


759 posted on 08/04/2008 10:56:17 AM PDT by annalex (http://www.catecheticsonline.com/CatenaAurea.php)
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