Posted on 07/26/2008 9:19:38 AM PDT by marbren
Welcome to the family of God.
It’s a joke ...
And I'm not Christian.
Is it the responsibilty of Christians to be the moral policemen for unbelivers?
If I had to guess, I’d say probably not, since discussions like this tend to be a little too esoteric for me. The only answer that comes to mind is that only God can answer it, and clearly I’m not His spokesman. Beyond that, loving and praying for neighbors is the job to do; that and trying to keep my own house in order.
“It’s a joke”
I didn’t think it was funny.
In fact, your joke was actually “... laughing at another man’s calamity” (surely being trapped in such a vile lifestyle can be considered a calamity ..??).
And .. the Bible is quite clear that when you do laugh at another man’s calamity .. you WILL NOT GET YOUR PRAYERS ANSWERED.
So .. suit yourself.
I have personally witnessed to a homosexual dying of AIDS (I found out he had received Jesus when he was just 7 years old - but look what the devil has done to his life) .. and at the last moment, he repented and ask God to forgive him. When he died, God allowed me to see a vision of him in heaven - dressed in white - smiling - no longer stricken with AIDS. It was my distinct honor to reveal that vision to his grief stricken parents.
God tells us that when He asks us to witness to someone and we do not .. and they die - still in their sin - then their blood is on our hands. That doesn’t mean that we must witness to everybody .. it means that when God specifically tells you to witness to someone .. He will give you the words to comfort them and lead them to Him. When we do that, and they still reject Him, then their blood is no longer on our hands.
I agree.
If you are afflicted with the Same Sex Affection Disorder, but do not allow your self to fall, then yes you can go to heaven.
If you play church while being in a homosexual relationship, then I doubt it.
But the same can be said for any sex outside of marriage.
Get a life ...
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
“Get a life ...”
I already have life eternal .. and you ..??
Note to self ... do not post on humorless Taliban like religious threads again
Pleased to report that God is NOT politically correct nor does he sway to the libs pressure to “please”
My understanding of scripture is pretty clear on this... and nice, honest, reverent gays.. well, bless their souls, just dont have the right formula for heaven
If I can overlook scripture & literal interpretation, then .. well, hey.. let everyone in.. murders, rapists, etc. That is NOT my understanding.
Grace covers w/o works.. but Christianity is defined by grace AND LIVING THE CHRISTIAN LIFESTYLE to see if the conversion is real.. Faith w/o works is indeed DEAD
flame away. I am not a fighter.. will not engage.. just stating my view.
I love you all FReeper friends.. gay, straight, blue , black or white.
I worked in Houston with the AIDS community as a hospice chaplain.
It is /was a difficult ministry. To be loving to the patients & true to your God.
Death process reveals a lot of soul searching on MANY areas.. sexuality being just one.
I must say there were a lot of changes in soul journeys on this issue.
Most truly did NOT know scripture.. Just KNEW God loves everyone & all are okay for him (libs really do their jobs well)
I became very close to those in the gay community & did most of their funerals....they knew I was NOT an appeaser & were grateful for it. The families appreciate honesty over sugar coating.
The truth will make you free, indeed.
If one doesn’t accept scripture as valid then one can believe whatever they chosel... easily..
I would be VERY afriad to go that route personally
Pricking your conscience .. am I ..??
Hmmmm ..?? I never understood why people couldn't understand that God loved them so much .. He even gave them the power NOT TO CHOOSE HIM.
Good luck with your choice!
Romans 14:23(b)NIV..."and everything that does not come from faith is sin"
THAT is about the best summation I have ever seen. We live in meat machines that tell us a variety of things are fun, and overcoming those addictions is decidedly NOT fun. But though Christ's sacrifice, all is possible.
Another wonderful and accurate wording. As I have note in other postings...it is an addiction that transforms people from being brothers, sons, sisters, daughters, bowlers, athletes, boaters, singers, etc. who happen to be homosexuals into GAY PEOPLE where the chosen sin colors every aspect of their lives until nothing is left but a pair of Gay-Colored-Glasses where every action of the world is viewed in that context. It is the disease that eats the victim alive. (Sorta like the Black Spidey Suit, eh?)
God decides who gets to heaven, and no one else, so in reality, no one can answer any question about who gets in and who doesn’t.
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