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Is Anti-Catholicism Dead? (Ques. Proposed by NY Times)
NY Times City Room Blog ^
| 7/23/2008
| Sewell Chan
Posted on 07/23/2008 2:47:21 PM PDT by Pyro7480
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To: Pyro7480
They’re joking right? As far as I can tell it’s alive and well and being fed.
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posted on
07/23/2008 3:01:11 PM PDT
by
Jaded
(neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again an)
To: sandyeggo
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posted on
07/23/2008 3:01:15 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
Comment #23 Removed by Moderator
To: big'ol_freeper
You said: Not around here its not... You aint lyin! What is funny about that is Catholics have no problem telling Protestants they are going to hell because they don't belong to 'The Church', but when Protestants say something about what is wrong with the Catholic beliefs, they are horrible anti-Catholic bigots.
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posted on
07/23/2008 3:02:30 PM PDT
by
Always Right
(Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
To: Pyro7480
We can put that behind us now. RM gave me a very fair hearing.
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posted on
07/23/2008 3:02:36 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
To: sandyeggo; cyborg
Yep, I even took a shower!
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posted on
07/23/2008 3:03:20 PM PDT
by
Petronski
(Scripture & Tradition must be accepted & honored w/equal sentiments of devotion & reverence. CCC 82)
To: sandyeggo
I will second that.....I am so glad that Petronski is back...
Comment #28 Removed by Moderator
To: Pyro7480
It’s not Catholicism per se that’s hated by the Beautiful People, it’s any religion with a non-negotiable moral code.
Perhaps I should say, any religion with a non-negotiable moral code that does not enforce it’s writ with violence.
Violence wins plenty of respect from the Left.
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posted on
07/23/2008 3:06:23 PM PDT
by
sinanju
Comment #30 Removed by Moderator
To: Old Sarge
One difference. When I have experienced anti Catholic vibes from evangelicals or like minded Christians I temper my upsetment with the knowledge that these folks do believe my Catholicism will condemn me to Hell. A fate they are trying to save me from. Wrongheaded to me and annoying, but when I get the anti catholic vibes from the left, and as a NYC public school teacher, boy does that happen often, the feeling on their part is that I am: 1) anti semitic, 2)have not evolved beyond the Middle Ages, and 3)can't possibly be as intelligent as I seem to be, since no intelligent person could believe this stuff. Oh and they are a little disturbed that I seem to fear death somewhat less than they do, as they are always asking me what doI think happens when you die.
BTW I met Father Neuhaus years ago when he was Reverend Neuhaus. My Theology professor at Fordham arranged for a group of us to interview him about the Lutheran liturgy for our class in comparative Christian Liturgy. Much younger then, you were still impressed with his intelligence, holiness, and faith, as well as his easy manner. He was a liberal then, giving sanctuary to two draft dodgers in his church.
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posted on
07/23/2008 3:11:11 PM PDT
by
xkaydet65
(Freedom is purchased not with gold, but with steel.)
To: Pyro7480; eastsider
a panel assembled at the Museum of the City of New York on Tuesday night to consider the question, Is Anti-Catholicism Dead? ... The Rev. Richard John Neuhaus Rats! I would have gone if I knew about it. I learned about the exhibit from the Society of St. Hugh of Cluny blog.
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posted on
07/23/2008 3:13:30 PM PDT
by
ELS
(Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
To: Always Right
You said: Catholics have no problem telling Protestants they are going to hell because they don’t belong to ‘The Church’
Um. Wrong. Catholics in particular do not judge the eternal destination of anybody, Catholic or non-Catholic. There is not one person who has ever lived that the Catholic Church (or practicing Catholics) states is in hell or destined for hell. Catholic belief is that only God can judge.
Now I do not doubt that you can find some Catholics who would make a pronouncement like that, but they would be wrong. Just like the time when my kids were going trick or treating on Halloween many moons ago and a Baptist family down the street told them they were going to hell because they were Catholics.
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posted on
07/23/2008 3:22:45 PM PDT
by
big'ol_freeper
("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
To: Always Right
Show me
one Catholic on this forum who has consigned any poster to hell.
Any good Catholic knows that decision is WAY above our pay grade.
About the only place you'll see that sort of pronouncement made is in something like Sister Mary Ignatius Explains It All for You, which is a Broadway secular anti-(ex-)Catholic's idea of an old-fashioned yardstick-wielding teaching sister.
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posted on
07/23/2008 3:33:36 PM PDT
by
AnAmericanMother
(Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
To: big'ol_freeper
Um. Wrong. Catholics in particular do not judge the eternal destination of anybody, Catholic or non-Catholic. There is not one person who has ever lived that the Catholic Church (or practicing Catholics) states is in hell or destined for hell. Catholic belief is that only God can judge. So Catholics believe non-Catholics can be saved without the sacraments????
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posted on
07/23/2008 3:35:01 PM PDT
by
Always Right
(Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
To: BnBlFlag
And the Secular Left just
loves to pit the Evangelicals against the Catholics.
After all, divide and conquer and all that.
Sometimes I wonder if some of the really enthusiastic haters on this board aren't agents provocateurs from somewhere like DU (and I don't mean Ducks Unlimited! :o) )
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posted on
07/23/2008 3:36:35 PM PDT
by
AnAmericanMother
(Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
To: AnAmericanMother
Show me one Catholic on this forum who has consigned any poster to hell. I am going to the county fair right now, but I will find one over the next day. I am certain I can find many who stated we can't be saved, so maybe the hell part was only implied.
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posted on
07/23/2008 3:36:52 PM PDT
by
Always Right
(Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
To: Always Right
So Catholics believe non-Catholics can be saved without the sacraments???? Not without Baptism -- but there's Baptism of Blood and even Baptism of Desire as well as the ordinary Baptism by water and the Holy Ghost.
So there is always the possibility of salvation. God has the power to reach out and save anyone, anywhere, as long as they truly desire it.
But we believe the safest and surest way is with the benefit of all the Sacraments of the Church -- especially that of Reconciliation (Confession).
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posted on
07/23/2008 3:39:31 PM PDT
by
AnAmericanMother
(Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
To: Always Right
Even hedging your bets, I don't think you'll find one.
And even if you do find a poster who said that, they are wrong and in conflict with the teaching of the Church.
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posted on
07/23/2008 3:42:10 PM PDT
by
AnAmericanMother
(Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
To: Pyro7480
The Museum of New York has just opened it's Catholics in New York exhibit.
Clearly the NYT is carrying out its mandate to propagandize "balance" for the good of its constituency.
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posted on
07/23/2008 3:44:57 PM PDT
by
the invisib1e hand
(bweed'n dee boo bow shaaaboood'n dee feee-oooo!)
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