Posted on 07/23/2008 2:47:21 PM PDT by Pyro7480
When Gov. Alfred E. Smith ran for president in 1928, his candidacy was derailed in large part by anti-Catholic prejudice. It has been nearly 48 years since John F. Kennedy became the first (and so far only) Roman Catholic president, but experts say that anti-Catholic sentiment — much of it originating in, or as a response to, immigrants in New York — remains an enduring force in American culture.
That was the consensus of a panel assembled at the Museum of the City of New York on Tuesday night to consider the question, “Is Anti-Catholicism Dead?”
...The Rev. Richard John Neuhaus — a leading conservative intellectual, a former Lutheran pastor and the editor of the leading Catholic journal First Things — offered a surprising view on the question.
“To be a Catholic is not to be refused positions of influence in our society,” he said. “Indeed, one of the most acceptable things is to be a bad Catholic, and in the view of many people, the only good Catholic is a bad Catholic.”
...He added that anti-Catholicism was as likely to come from the left — sometimes from commentators who believe that a “threatening theological insurgency is engineered and directed by Catholics,” with evangelical Protestants merely as the movement’s “foot soldiers.”
(Excerpt) Read more at cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com ...
I think you are right on Catholic Miller in the VP slot. Didn’t quite break the ‘barrier’. Hopefully soon with a true believer.
I’m in the early stages of reeling in a family of Baptists who are horrified that suddenly the Baptist Churches in town are going on an Anti-Catholic kick.
> My teenagers think David Lee Roth is hysterical.
He used to be my alter-ego, back when platform boots and long hair and jeans jackets were de rigeur more years ago than I care to think about...
(Come to think about it, I was 120 lbs lighter back then, too, and had yet to learn how to shave. Too young to drive. And I don’t think I even had a girlfriend yet back then, and didn’t see the need for one either...)
Crikey. Shivers! Antient History ay.
I'm well aware of that. We may have different perspectives of the religious right due to our geographical positions. I'm in Southern VA and have put up with subtle and overt bigotry for years. The in your face hateful stuff comes from protestants, typical right wing evangelicals. Like when a large Baptist Church in the area invites Ian Paisley to come over and preach a revival. That's preceded by weeks of hate filled, ignorant and barely coherent letters to the editor of the local paper damning all Catholics to hell, just as a warm up. Then we get a week of Paisley denouncing the Pope , denouncing Catholics and making hateful statemnets to the press and then a couple of weeks of other crap after he leaves. Thankfully he hasn't been here in a while but it's no secret where folks sentiments lie.
As for me. I'm a Catholic who is politically conservative but I'm not part of the 'Religious Right'.
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Was this when he was still with Van Halen, or when he was a solo act? Remember “California Girls”? Unnngh ...
Neither am I. Not, at least, in the neo-con sense that seems to pervade the tattered remains of the Republican Party. But I was speaking in "received generalities" to keep the keystrokes down while I'm here at work. I was just trying to differentiate left-leaning Northeast and West Coast Catholics (like the kind all-too-common in my neck of the woods) from the politically conservative Catholics (myself included) still out there. As you relate your experiences at the hands of the "mainstream" Religious Right in your area, you certainly have my sympathy. But, on many issues outside purely religious considerations, they are still our allies, even if they feel the need to take hourly showers when in proximity to us. God's time is not our time. I try to remember that. It's what gets me through...
It's a good thing to remember.
> Was this when he was still with Van Halen, or when he was a solo act?
197..7? 1978? He was the front-man for Van Halen at the time, and their sound was fairly unique: it was the ultimate in teenage temper-tantrums, what everybody graduated to when they got too old and sophisticated for Gene Simmons and the KISS Army...
...all except for the odd-balls who instead discovered the punk rock and the Sex Pistols. Typically those were the kids who also played with matches and should have been medicated with Ritalin except it hadn’t been invented at the time.
> Remember “California Girls”? Unnngh ...
After “1984” Van Halen was a sad, sad and sorry state of affairs, no mistake! And David Lee Roth ought never to have recorded that solo album: he should have instead grown old disgracefully, like Gene Simmons has.
I am on the Life Chain Committee at our parish.
After Katrina, ALL of the local churches put together a well organized program for how to care for the evacuees. Rotated feeding, no duplicate programs and so on. One month later when Life Chain occurred less than 1/2 of one percent of these Churches participated.
Until two years ago one of the signatories on the letter that goes out to all churches was a Baptist minister. That year he called to ask that his name be removed from a letter promoting a Pro-Life function. This was because his fellowship of Baptist ministers that he met with regularly pressured him into it. One of the excuses he gave was that it would cost him money in the collection plate if he continued to be involved with Catholics. And this guy wasn’t even a fundamentalist.
Ritalin has been around at least since the 60’s. Those kids were mixing their off label pharmaceuticals at their own risk.
My last concert was David Lee Roth and.... I don’t remember but Stevie Vai was crawling across the amps. .
If a Catholic on a GOP ticket is of the quality of four of the five RCs on the Supreme Court, he or she will be enthusiastically supported by those of us who are Evangelicals.
> Ritalin has been around at least since the 60’s. Those kids were mixing their off label pharmaceuticals at their own risk.
(Grin!) Or sniffing contact cement and drinking Listerine.
> My last concert was David Lee Roth and.... I don’t remember but Stevie Vai was crawling across the amps. .
Mine was “Hunters and Collectors” / “Midnight Oil” at the UBC Thunderbird Stadium. Excellent concert.
I see Def Leppard is playing in Auckland soon: I was very tempted to buy tickets, but then I took a look at the concert poster and changed my mind. They looked like hard-living geriatrics in Lycra (tho’ not as bad as the Rolling Stones) and I’m going to guess that they’ve sung “Rock of Ages” one or two times too many...
There comes a time when we must all grow up and listen to Jazz. Def Leppard was great in the 1980’s: I prefer to remember them that way.
Oh crap! I must be really old! Suffering from sometimers. Last summer I saw Def Leppard, Foreigner and Styx and Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavillion (outdoor venue). It rained that day it was treacherous! We were in the back. My sister kept getting up and dancing. I realized that I was one of those people who could just lay back and listen. Let the music float over me instead of looking like a stoned/drunk/aging jumping bean and short shorts and and a tube top. There were some interesting people there.
A few months ago I was at grocery store. You know how they play elevator muzaak? They were playing My Sharona. I about died! I wanted to weep bitterly, a song from high school was now officially “muzaak”.
Regards,
That is just sad.
Thanks I missed that one..
sorry my bad.
I don’t know where I got that idea, you don’t write like a girl.
But I have known some women who write like men.
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Not a problem. Everyone guesses someone wrong now and then.
as a practicing Catholic I have no intention of reading it...but let me ask you; is the NYSlimes questioning this?? or are they saddened by the prospects of this???
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