[fproy2222]

In the case of the 1st vision you have joseph smith's word that he was multiple ages when it occured, was it in the woods or his bedroom, who appeared, how many appeared, the year it occured. In each of these different categories smith contradicts himself - it could only happen in either 1820 or 1823 - not both. It could only have happened in the woods or the bedroom - it is impossible for a first vision to occur in both locations, etc. Paul's account of his encounter with Christ does not contain contradictions as smith's account does. So by that standard smith is a false prophet while Paul's testamony stands the test. Since smith lied about the whole vision thing, he probably lied about a lot of other things too.

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First off, you are using Joseph's direct writings, and the second hand writings of others and comparing them to just Paul's first hand writings.

But then again, who cares.

[ejonesie22]

First off, you are using Joseph's direct writings, and the second hand writings of others and comparing them to just Paul's first hand writings.

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So he is comparing apples to apples?

I can see where that would be a problem for you. As I am rapidly learning by reading them, first hand sources are the last thing the LDS wants to go by.

[Godzilla]

First off, you are using Joseph's direct writings, and the second hand writings of others and comparing them to just Paul's first hand writings

F - even smith's personal diary in his handwriting contradicts the official account, let alone the account he dictated to Cowdry and published in time and seasons IIRC.

Who cares - well those who want truth and those who would rather be deceived.