***God can’t be a robot programmer because He gave us a will.***
If your every moment in life is predetermined, then you don’t have a will.
***He does micromanage those things He cares about though.***
Where does it say that?
***The extent to which God gives up His control is the same extent to which He is irresponsible, immoral, and does not care about us. This is what we see in the real world under Catholic theology.***
We need to remove the foggy glasses, then. Your statement does not remotely reflect Catholicism.
***Most choose against God and He chooses to do nothing to effectually prevent it, even though He has the full power, authority, and right to do so. He doesn’t care. Once again you have God choosing for man’s will to supersede His own will.***
God chose the Jews and the whole OT is an attempt to get their attention. God calls all men to him. John 3:17:
For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through him.
But He knows that not all will obey.
*** That would be completely irresponsible of a loving God.***
Ascribing anthropomorthic descriptions of what God is or isn’t in spite of Gospel verse doesn’t cut it. Jesus taught and either we listen to various government proclamations, construct our own theologies, or follow the Church of Jesus Christ.
***Does God not trifle with small things in your life? Have you never experienced a “small” miracle? I sure have and give the glory to God.***
And the same goes for me in both the experiences and the praise to God.
***For you and me (us believers), yes. Jesus prayed for us, but He did not pray for the world.***
John 3:17.
If your every moment in life is predetermined, then you don’t have a will.
It's more complicated than that. Do you have the free will to fly to the moon? No, your will is limited. That's what we say too. The Catholic free will means you must act, even for good, apart and away from God, lest He interfere. We say that in doing good our will has been given to us and it is Him acting through us.
FK: ***He does micromanage those things He cares about though.***
Where does it say that?
It is inferred from my earlier post concerning God's plan and in general from His sovereignty, omnipotence, and love for us. If He did not it would mean He really did not love us.
God chose the Jews and the whole OT is an attempt to get their attention.
That brings us back to the whole "God is a failure" in Catholicism routine. The only out for you all is to say it is God's higher will that men decide apart from Him than to save them. The Catholic God watches His beloved child play in traffic and does nothing more than suggest that he not because it is more important to Him not to interfere than to save the child. As I have said, we would be arrested for such behavior because it is immoral and irresponsible. So, your comment reveals a truly weak God on a marketing mission that ultimately fails. :)
[Re: John 3:17] But He knows that not all will obey.
Sure, it is an outward call consistent with God's nature, but not a decree. The decree is to save His elect with absolute certainty.
FK: *** That would be completely irresponsible of a loving God.***
Ascribing anthropomorphic descriptions of what God is or isn’t in spite of Gospel verse doesn’t cut it.
This sounds like another example of trying to moot a point by just throwing out a big word like "anthropomorphic". :) It was God who chose the parent-child comparison in the Bible, not men. God says He is our Father and He loves us. With love of a superior over an inferior always comes responsibility. Parent-child. Are you saying that God is anthropomorphizing Himself? BTW, above you say the OT was God's attempt to get the attention of the Jews. Isn't that a classic anthropomorphism in your book? :)
FK: ***For you and me (us believers), yes. Jesus prayed for us, but He did not pray for the world.***
John 3:17.
I don't understand what your answer is. Is it that John 3:17 is right and therefore somehow trumps Jesus' entire prayer in John 17, which is wrong?