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To: Gamecock
Your point of reference for all of the "errors" you perceive in the Catholic Church begins in the 16th Century. It is cheeky in the extreme to deny even the appellation of "Christian" to groups of people (and here I would certainly include the Orthodox and Oriental Churches) who transmitted the Faith that comes down to us from the Apostles for nearly 1500 years before your buddy John Calvin drew his first breath. The chutzpah found in this attitude is beyond description.

You obviously have no idea what a sandy foundation you build on, focusing on the mere opinions of men who denied a Faith with organic traceability to the time of Christ Himself. That you deny that traceability is your opinion. If the Faith was not accurately transmitted all those centuries wherein you say the Church was apostate, then God's promised providence, found, among other places, in Matthew 28, is totally meaningless. Your very premises insult God Himself, even while your aim is merely to insult Catholics with your statement that they are not even Christian.

28 posted on 07/08/2008 6:14:29 AM PDT by magisterium
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To: magisterium

Nonsense . . .

it’s the ROUTES of transmission that many disagree with the RC’s about.

The RC edifice did it’s sometimes even military best to insure it had a monopoly on all things Christian . . . thankfully

God always had a remnant that was not under the control of the power-mongering political committee glorying bureaucrats.


37 posted on 07/08/2008 8:33:52 AM PDT by Quix (WE HAVE THE OIL NOW http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3340274697167011147)
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To: magisterium

Not all Catholics are Christians and not all Christians are Catholics. We’re a mixed bunch. Going to any church will not ‘make you’ a Christian. It’s what you do with Jesus. HE is the gateway to Heaven, and He alone. If He’s not your Saviour, you are lost. Period. No baptism, no Eucharist, no Pope, no repeating the Rosary 15 times a day, no works will save you, only your faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and your obedience to Him.


115 posted on 07/08/2008 9:04:25 PM PDT by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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